I understand. Miami (where I grew up) was considered 'south' geographically, but a suburb of New York or Philly by others living to the north, but within FL by 'true' southerners. There were very few Slovaks in our neighborhood. There were more Czechs, but my mother always was particular about the distinction.
From: CurtB <curt67boc@...
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Is it Slovak, Slovenian, or... Dutch?
Ah, perspective. Growing up in the Central States (Midwest), we knew well where Central Europe was. For us, you grew up in the Far East. This didn't confuse us at all. We knew China was in East Asia.
--- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, Joe Armata <armata@...> wrote:
> Sorry, but at least in my corner of the US (western New England),
> Slovakia and Poland were always called "Eastern Europe", while Austria
> and Germany were always called "Western Europe." The term "Central
> Europe" was rarely used.
> The division used in Europe may have been different, but that's the
> division we used.
> >> The politics changed, not the geography. Now we are back to the
> >> older, more accurate terminology.
> > Yes, "we" is an important word here, Ron. Many U.S. commentators and
> > academics still do not have a clue that Communism or not, geography
> > textbooks from Switzerland and Germany to Poland and Hungary always
> > taught their students that their homes were in Central Europe. The
> > Communists never said that, e.g., Czechoslovakia was in the "East."
> > The East was the Soviet Union in the Central European Communists'
> > media.
> > That's part of the reason why Central Europeans looked in disbelief
> > at foreigners who visited under Communism and said things like "here
> > in Eastern Europe" based on some bureaucratic (like the need for the
> > UN to categorize its statistics) or political (Communism, democracy)
> > concept.
> > Imagine a foreigner who says in Nebraska "here in the Pacific
> > cultural area" because Nebraska happens to be grouped with the states
> > farther to the west in some economic statistics. Or insists that
> > Costa Rica is a "North American" (not Central American) culture,
> > because the country is grouped that way in a world statistical survey
> > that needs few, and therefore extensive, territorial categories.
> > Yet, such "experts" on Europe still haunt U.S. academia.
> > The Habsburg monarchy was never an "East European" power, nor have
> > been its successor countries, including Slovakia.
> > Martin
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