Dear comrades from all around this old blue ball: Queridos camaradas de toda esta vieja bola azul: This message is to remind you some basic information aboutMessage 1 of 8 , Jun 1, 2003View SourceDear comrades from all around this old blue ball:
Queridos camaradas de toda esta vieja bola azul:
This message is to remind you some basic information about the SXS -- SEXUALITY AND SOCIALISM discussion list. // Este es un mensaje recordatorio de la informaci�n b�sica sobre la lista SXS -- SEXUALIDAD Y SOCIALISMO.
This list is made by its subscribers, rather than by its moderators. // Esta lista es hecha por sus subscriptores, m�s que por sus moderadores. The languages allowed // las lenguas admitidas son:
Catal�, Deutsch, English, Espa�ol (Castellano), Esperanto, Fran�ais, Italiano, Portugu�s (Galego)
SXS is beginning yet. Anyhow, it will probably be a list with a low message turnover. // SXS est� a empezar todav�a. Sea como fuere, probablemente ser� una lista con baja movimentaci�n de mensajes.
SXS is a free-wheeling forum among all strands of progressive people regardless of nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, age or religious faith (if any). // SXS es un foro libre de todas las corrientes de personas de tendencia progresiva sin distinci�n de nacionalidad, raza, g�nero, orientaci�n sexual, edad o fe religiosa (para quien la tenga).
SXS is for exchange of opinions and theoretical topics and to help activists all over the world to stay in touch. It also aims to circulate announcements, news and action alerts. // SXS se destina al intercambio de opiniones y t�picos te�ricos y a contactar activistas de todo el mundo. Tambi�n tiene por objetivo hacer circular anuncios, noticias y alertas.
Send your messages to: // Env�a tus mensajes para:
More information may be found in the list main page at // M�s informaciones pueden ser halladas en la p�gina principal de la lista en
You can see and download the messages already sent by pressing "Messages" at the left of the main page of this list. // Puedes leer y bajar los mensajes ya enviados al presionar "Messages" en la izquierda de esa p�gina principal.
The basic introduction about the objectives and resources of the SXS -- SEXUALITY AND SOCIALISM international network // La introducci�n b�sica sobre los objetivos y recursos de la red internacional SXS -- SEXUALIDAD Y SOCIALISMO puede ser hallada en
This page is going to be translated into Spanish (Castilian), as well as the tentative index of the essay (under construction yet) called __The New Sexual-Affective and Political Relationship among Women and Men: a Radical Perspective__. It may be found in three Web pages at
Aquella p�gina est� siendo traducida al castellano, as� como el indice provisional del ensayo __El Nuevo Relacionamiento entre la Mujer y el Hombre: una Perspectiva Radical_. Anteriormente han sido mencionadas las p�ginas que lo contienen (todav�a solamente en ingl�s). El primer esbozo de sua parte introductoria puede ser hallado en portugu�s en el BLOG
We have also created the site called // Tambi�n creamos el sitio llamado
You don't need to subscribe it, at least for now. // No precisas subscribirte, al menos por ahora.
Red Love will serve as a storage for larger messages, bulletins and music and photo files for the SXS - Sexuality and Socialism international network. // Red Love (El Amor Rojo) servir� como almac�n de mensajes m�s largos, boletines y archivos de fotos y m�sicas para la red internacional SXS -- SEXUALIDAD Y SOCIALISMO.
RED LOVE is the best known book by Alexandra Kollontai (1872-1952), the great revolutionary feminist. // EL AMOR ROJO es el libro m�s conocido de Alexandra Kollontai (1872-1952), la grande revolucionaria femenista.
Find it at / H�llalo en
Thank you very much !
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(...) die Kommunisten unterst�tzen �berall jede revolution�re Bewegung gegen die bestehenden gesellschaftlichen und politischen Zust�nde (...) arbeiten endlich �berall an der Verbindung und Verst�ndigung der demokratischen Parteien aller L�nder (...) Die Proletarier haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen.
PROLETARIER ALLER L�NDER, VEREINIGT EUCH !
(Marx / Engels, 1848)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MujeresLibres/message/881 Brazil: Women, Racism & Revolution (was: Indigenous, Blacks and politics) As a South American, I mayMessage 1 of 8 , Jun 13, 2003View Sourcehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/MujeresLibres/message/881
Brazil: Women, Racism & Revolution (was: Indigenous, Blacks and
As a South American, I may say that what Luna wrote (below) is quite
accurate and truthful.
Brazilian women are oppressed as in any other part of the Western
countries, not to mention the whole Earth at large. Nevertheless,
since both Argentina and Brazil --two neighbouring and highly
integrated countries-- seem to be the fittest countries for
Revolution nowadays, the women's movement is growing swiftly and has
obtained, especially in Brazil, the most advanced legislation on
parenthood of the bourgeois world and complete juridical equality
Juridical equality: this means that a lot has yet to be done with
regard to daily customs. Nevertheless, being Brazilians as a rule
more open to sex issues than people in other countries, this mean
that women are being more successful in reaching sexual parity with
Both Argentina and Brazil are predominantly Roman Catholic countries,
but in the first the Chuch tends to be quite reactionary whereas in
Brazil it tends to Revolution, believe it or not. Brazil is the
craddle of the Liberation Theology. Many priests are married and
have children, though in acting so they defy the Vatican hierarchy
and their votes of perpetual chastity.
The main threat to public liberties and accordingly to the
emancipation of women in Brazil comes from the fanatical fringe of
Protestantism (Pentecostal sects), that has been growing
astonishingly as the general crises of capitalism goes on.
Nevertheless, the same crisis spurs Revolution. Imperialism has been
quite aware of the revolutionary danger in South America. Argentina
and Brazil together are the largest geographically continuous and
integrated ecumene (*) in the world, from the vicinities of the
Southern Pole to the vicinities of the Caribbean Sea, with about 210
million people, and without the ethnical rivalries and frontier
disputes that plague other countries.
(*) Ecumene is a term used by geographers to mean inhabited
land. It generally refers to land where people have made their
permanent home, and to all work areas that are considered occupied
and used for agricultural or any other economic purposes. Thus, there
can be various types of ecumenes, each having their own unique
characteristics (population ecumene, agricultural ecumene, industrial
ecumene, etc.). Explanation found at:
As to racism in Brazil: it does exist, but in a mitigated way.
Brazil (as Argentina too) received many immigrants from all over
Europe and also from Japan, Syria and Lebanon, which have
concentrated since the 18 th century in the center-south area and in
the biggest cities. By the other side, Brazil also has a large
section of black population comparable to that of United States and a
liitle indigenous minority.
Capitalism, as everywhere, favours racist bias, but racism in Brazil
is mitigated for a historic and cultural reason: the longstanding
presence of Arabs in the Iberian peninsula (about 8 centuries) and
their deep influence as a superior civilization, even in language and
daily customs, not to mention ethnical crossing, has historically
made the present days Portugal and Spain much more tolerant to racial
and cultural differences as Germany and Britain, for instance.
--- In MujeresLibres@yahoogroups.com, PlatedHeart@a... wrote:
> hi there
> about womyn in brasil and submission..........we can't forget that
> the largest catholic country in the world. the church has done a
> keeping womyn at bay for centuries
.according to alot information and some of my own
> experiences while there leaving or visiting after i moved to the
usa ,it has
> been a change in society there but for one to noticed that one has
> lived there when not much happen in terms of growth for womyn. the
> womyn the ones that have an education are very outspoken and fend
> the view that they are totally dependent in their husbands is not
> very accurate view nowdays. they play a very 1/2 and 1/2 role in
> relationship. in terms of sexuality brazilians have a more open
mind and acceptance of
> sexuality then i find here in the usa. poverty is rampage in brasil
> that comes a social oppression not only by men but by a social
> make sure that the system stays alive .the young generation of
> a very strung political voice even back when in time when i was on
my teens .
> i could see a great difference between the brazilian teens and the
> teens in terms of been political wake . lets not forget that this
is ' my
> experience ' and the people that i know there . each person will
have a different
> experience and a different point of view.
> about the position of people of color in brazil i say
> even if you talk to another brazilians and they say that brazilians
> look color , racism exists in many levels just like in any society
all over the
> world. in brazil is a more subdue but is there for one to see if
one is aware
> of racism at all... it is a social attitude and is embrace by many
of a higher
> status quo... i find that alot of the division in brasil is due to
> quo division so if we can bring down the status quo the chances are
> of the divisions in that society will easy out .the discrepancy
> class in brazil is incredible big.in the usa you can see that too
but it is
> hidden behind invisible lines and american politics make sure it is
> most cities but not in the big cities. in brazil is not hidden is
there for you
> to see...people moved to the streets with their families and they
want to be
> seing and they are seing by many and helped by many but when the
numbers are so
> huge is hard to be able to help all that needs it. i know many
> brazil that do the social help that a system should have done .they
do on their
> own from food to medical care what we do not see in here since in
> people are so scared of lawsuits that they prefer not to help
> sorry for going on and on ...
> love and light
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sexuality-Socialism/message/41 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0613_030613_prisonkids .html Mothers Behind Bars:Message 1 of 8 , Jun 14, 2003View Sourcehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sexuality-Socialism/message/41
Mothers Behind Bars: What Happens to the Children?
for National Geographic Ultimate Explorer
June 13, 2003
America's female prison population is booming. In the last ten years
the number of women in prison has nearly doubled. As these women
serve their time, they're not the only ones to pay a price. Innocent
victims are suffering for the crimes of othersthey are the children
of mothers behind bars.
According to a Department of Justice study, some 1.5 million minors
had a parent in prison during the study year 1999an increase of over
a half million kids between 1991 and 1999. Today the number is likely
even higher and some suggest that it has approached two million. The
average age of these children is eight. Statistics show that many of
them will be incarcerated as juvenile offenders, perpetuating a
disturbing cycle of hopelessness and crime.
Because the U.S. prison population is overwhelmingly male, most
incarcerated parents are fathers. Over 125,000 children, however, had
a mother behind bars in the 1999 reportand that number is growing.
The trend raises a troubling and difficult question: Who is taking
care of these children?
According to the Department of Justice statistics, which were based
on personal interviews in state and federal correctional facilities,
it's usually not their fathers. Only 28 percent of the mothers in
prison said that their child's father was the primary caregiver while
they were imprisoned. Over half said that grandparents were
responsible, while others said that their children were with other
relatives or foster homes.
Sometimes substitute caregivers improve children's lives; other times
they care little for their unwanted burdens. In all cases, the
mother/child relationship suffers under such difficult conditions.
Children Behind BarsWith Their Mothers
The search for workable and healthy solutions is a difficult one, and
approaches around the world vary widely. In India's Tihar Prison,
Ultimate Explorer host Lisa Ling found that mothers among the massive
prison's 500 female inmates are allowed to bring their children with
themto live within the prison walls.
The New Delhi prison, one of Asia's largest, allows mothers to keep
their children with them until the child turns five. While the
environment does have a family orientation it's still very much a
prison where kids serve time with their mothers.
The arrangement is not without it's nurturing aspects. Female
prisoners run a "crèche" for the childrena sort of playschool where
they spend their day from 9 to 5. Sabria, a prisoner who runs the
crèche program, explained it to Ling: "We try and give them what is
the basic education that the child needs at the age of five," she
said, "and their schedule includes everything which is fun. They do
exercises and all sorts of activities."
Three square meals a day and decent housing conditions are better
than some of these inmatesmother or childmight expect on the
At the end of the day, the kids enjoy the bonds of motherhood but
they do so within prison walls. Those there since birth know of no
other life. And after the age of five, the kids must leave the prison
for another home on the outside, a hostel, with relatives, or perhaps
even on the street.
Is Prison a Place for Children?
In the United States, opportunities for prison moms to see their
children exist on a smaller scale. The majority of the mothers cited
in the DOJ study reported never having had a personal visit from
their children since their admission to state prison.
In the Louisiana Correctional Institute for Women at St. Gabriel,
Louisiana, one of the largest prisons for women in the country, some
75 percent of the prison's nearly 1,000 inmates are mothers. The
institution has a program that allows them to spend Saturday or
Sunday afternoons with their children. Other states and institutions
are experimenting with similar programs to foster the mother/child
The Federal Bureau of Prisons operates the Mothers and Infants
Together (MINT) program for pregnant inmates. Though not all pregnant
inmates qualify, many do and are able to spend three months prior to
delivery and two months after the birth in a halfway house facility.
There, the women learn improved parenting skills and form bonds with
their newborns, who are placed with relatives when their mothers
return to serve our their sentences.
A few states offer programs where newborns can stay with qualified
mothers for varying lengths of time. In California for example,
female inmates selected as fit mothers can live together with young
children in small community-based facilities.
Louisiana Correctional Institute for women warden Johnnie Jones has
been on the job since 1978. He believes that allowing children to
spend more time inside the prison could be a good thing.
"I think it would be good," he told Ultimate Explorer. "The reason
why I think it would be good is because if you had the women and
children here it would be more like a family setting, as opposed to a
The idea has its own challenges as well. Many of the incarcerated
mothers were not model parents before they ran afoul of the law. Drug
and alcohol abuse are common problems, and only 64 percent of the
women in the DOJ study reported living with their children just prior
Some of the incarcerated mothers Ling spoke with generally affirmed
that while visits were welcome, "prison is no place for kids." Others
were distraught over the unclear fate of children living on the
While these issues are debated, the children suffer. One thing that
many people agree upon is that more should be done to be sure that
kids with mothers behind bars get the care that they deserve.
"You know prisons, they don't operate in isolation," Jones told
Ultimate Explorer. "They operate within a political setting, you see,
and what is politically expedient or more acceptable, that's
generally what we do. If the community will start clamoring about
making provision for women in prison and their children, something
will be done about it."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sexuality-Socialism/message/42 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0611_030611_drruth.htm l#main Dr. Ruth: Sex SageMessage 1 of 8 , Jun 14, 2003View Sourcehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sexuality-Socialism/message/42
Dr. Ruth: Sex Sage and Ex-Sniper on Global Sexuality
By Tom Foreman
Inside Base Camp
June 11, 2003
The first time I talked to Dr. Ruth Westheimer was on the phone. I
called her home in New York to explain what National Geographic
wanted to know from the world's most famous sex therapist. I had
prepared my arguments in case she was reticent: about how we wanted
to discuss cultural differences in sex around the world, her work
with children's education, her extraordinary life. I need not have
"Hello, Tom!" The voiced that launched a million nervous giggles came
through the receiver and lit up the room. And it was clear in a
flash, Dr. Ruth simply wanted to establish a personal relationship
before diving into coitus garrulous.
This 4-foot-7-inch-tall (140 centimeters), German born, Jewish
grandmother is all about relationships between men and women, old
and young, lovers and friends. As she walks into my studio, she
instinctively hugs shoulders, pats hands, and touches the arms of
everyone she sees. She fills the space around her with warmth,
compassion, intelligence, and caring; and for Dr. Ruth, these
qualities are the underpinnings of sex the whole world over.
Tom Foreman: Do you think that people really are the same everywhere
no matter their culture, no matter their religionthat sexually,
we're all doing the same things?
Dr. Ruth: You said it very well, Tomsexually we are doing the same
things. That's how babies are made. However, there are some
differences in terms of cultural background, in terms of religious
backgrounds, in terms of premarital sexual relations, in terms of
being able to talk about issues of sexuality. For example, in Israel
I did a little survey, about Bedouins who did come to clinics. And
the men did say that they have difficulties with their erectionsthey
made that gesture (holding up her finger), but they would never say
Tom Foreman: If somebody said, "Sum up the American sexual persona,"
what would you say?
Dr. Ruth: Look, first of all, we are a country with many different
cultures, many different backgrounds. What I have seen in the last 20
years, since I started the radio program, and what I see in my
private practice is the change is not about the problems. The
problems that people bring to me or that they talk about are the same
of premature ejaculation, of women not being able to have sexual
satisfaction. What definitely has changed in this country is the
vocabularypeople are more explicit, people are more sexually
literate. And I welcome this. There is more of an awareness that sex
is not only for procreation; that it certainly is for recreation.
Look at the smile on you!
Tom Foreman: My smile is going to get me into trouble. But some years
ago, people made a big deal of the notion that Europeans and other
people were much freer about sex, and that we were a prudish nation
Dr. Ruth: No. You see it's true that there are myths that have
filtered down throughout the ages. For example, the Victorian mother
who told her daughter the night of the wedding, "Lie back and think
of England, there is nothing in it for you!" (Laughter) When I
compare, and I didn't do a scientifically validated study, but I
travel a lot [and] it is not true that we [Americans] are more
prudish. What is true is it's a little differentfor example, in
England you know that there is a magazine that every single day has
to have breasts on page three of a naked woman. We have that in
Penthouse and Playboy, but not in a magazine that comes to the house.
Tom Foreman: You have said that you personally are a little bit
prudish about some things.
Dr. Ruth: I am very old fashioned, Tom, and a square. (Laughter) I
believe in love. I believe in relationships. I believe in people
staying together for a lifetime or as long as possible.
Tom Foreman: You say that from the context of having had some
marriages that didn't work out.
Dr. Ruth: That's true. So I talk out of experience.
Tom Foreman: Your parents sent you away from the Nazis when you were
ten years old and your entire family died at Auschwitz.
Dr. Ruth: That's right. They were all exterminated in concentration
camps. And when I went to then Palestine, which became Israel in
1948, and the first fellow who offered to marry me we loved each
other, and we are still good friendsbut it wasn't a marriage
forever. Then I met a gorgeous looking French guy and I married for
one year and have a beautiful daughter, and then that didn't lead to
a relationship. However, my late husband who passed away, he was Fred
Westheimer. We were married for 37 years, and that was a marriage.
Tom Foreman: You were trained as a sniper?
Dr. Ruth: We were all trained in the forerunner of the Israeli
Defense Force, and for some reason that I can't explain I'm a very
good sniper. I can put five bullets into this little red circle
(makes circle with her fingers). I know how to throw hand grenades.
I've never killed anybody. I was badly wounded.
Tom Foreman: There was a bomb that went off in the barracks.
Dr. Ruth: Yes.
Tom Foreman: Many of your friends were wounded as well?
Dr. Ruth: Yes and died. Boy you did your homework.
Tom Foreman: Do you think that some of those experiences of your life
made you bolder? Many people comment that the thing that strikes them
about you is that you so fiercely walk into any culture and you ask
very intimate questions.
Dr. Ruth: I am what you call bold because the one thing that I've
learned coming out of Nazi Germany is that I have to stand up and be
counted for what I believe. And that's how people are listening to
me, because they know it's not a put-on.