Grant- What about adding a Cunningham? You may have, or can easily add a grommet about a foot above the clew. Hook a short line to one of the reefing horns,Message 1 of 34 , Nov 1, 2005View Source
What about adding a Cunningham? You may have, or can easily add a grommet about a foot above the clew. Hook a short line to one of the reefing horns, run it up through the grommet and connect a 4:1 vang tackle between the other end and the mast collar. That should smooth the luff. If the wind pipes up and the wrinkles return, give it a little more tension. I’m surprised Dave didn’t recommend one.
From: Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Woodside
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:24 PM
Subject: [Sabresailboat] Sabre 32 Gooseneck
The problem with my main is I can't get the wrinkles
out of the luff. Dave from Quantum looked at the sail
on the boat under load and said the luff rope may have
shrunk and that the tack was too low causing the luff
edge of the foot to lift. I don't need less luff load,
I need more load.
He recommends loosening the luff rope and raising the
tack cringle which would bring down the foot at the
luff. I thought I would out smart him and replace the
tack shackle; however, only one size seems to fit.
Then I thought the PO mucked with the gooseneck and if
I changed it that would fix the problem.
Now I think I have the original gooseneck. I will
check this weekend. So, I will give Dave the sail and
let him do his thing.
Dave recommended I get a loose footed main in the
future, but my present North main has some life in it.
I really think his goal is to suck as much money out
of my pocket at possible. Why would he want to sell me
a new main when he can sell me improvements to my
present main and then sell me a new main.
When we purchased Eliza D in Jan '05 we gave him the
main. He put in new slugs and sold me new battens
saying the old ones were too soft. Funny thing, when
he looked at the same main on the boat, he said I
needed new slugs and stiffer battens. When I told him
those were the ones HE sold me, he shut up.
--- ecm56 <sabre30_36@...> wrote:
> Even with a shelf foot, which I asked for despite
> recommendation to go with the loose foot (which, in
> retrospect, I wish
> I had done), the boltrope for the foot is not under
> any tension. The
> loads are taken at the tack and clew.
I have tried seeing the arrangement as best I can on the jpeg and I am sure my observations are not very bright. However it appears the bottom ring of the sailMessage 34 of 34 , Nov 1, 2005View SourceI have tried seeing the arrangement as best I can on the jpeg and I am sure my observations are not very bright.However it appears the bottom ring of the sail is secured to the reef fitting? On my 34 the same ring is secured by a horizontal bolt below the reef fitting, thus the sail is secured correspondingly lower.I also have had to release the bolt rope and reset it.Since then I found a cunningham unnecessary.That will change in time of courseGraham S34 Fearless
Grant Woodside <gewoodsiii@...> wrote:
Thank you for visiting the Eliza D a couple of weeks
ago. You looked at issues with the North main and
wrinkles in the luff. You noticed that the foot at the
luff was being pulled up and recommended raising the
tack cringle to pull it down.
In the following picture, you will see the same
problem of the tack too high and more pronounced. This
is a sail that you made which is also on a Sabre 32.
We have been discussing this problem and have a few
1) Your solution of raising the tack cringle on the
2) Replace the shackle with a smaller one. I can't
find a smaller shackle that will fit the gooseneck.
3) Add a Cunningham to pull the luff tighter; however,
in my opinion, this doesn't really fix the problem of
the tack too high.
Do you still think raising the tack cringle is the
best solution? What went wrong in the picture of the
sail you built?
S32 #3 1984 Eliza D
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