Dear Sir, This is not Polymics. We are suturing the wounds inflicted by Orthodox leadership. Our crying out with pain is to some polemics. HH ZakkaMessage 1 of 4 , Mar 24, 2002View SourceDear Sir,
This is not Polymics.
We are suturing the wounds inflicted by Orthodox leadership.
Our crying out with pain is to some polemics.
HH Zakka Patriarch now clearly knows treacherous people.
No one ever dream he can cheat HH
No body even told( in any group) H.H cannot be trusted.
It was his predecessor who trusted these people and in turn
got cheated. Catholicos can be trusted or not
he has proved already .(I remmber
he gave a message ofpeaceandnext day appointed apriest to Manarcad church.
Now he will start his 'Thandava"
as he has become ''full MM"
We need not call any one" Trustworthy or not trustworthy",
they prove themselves.
(We have heard the story of the blue fox who pretended
to the king. On a moonlit day he will prove himself.)
March 20th has made the divide complete.
Subject: [SOCM-FORUM] Shed polemics and try to be more polite. - Dr. Babu
> "They say Patriarch cannot be trusted, we say
> the Catholicose cannot be trusted, I know both
> and I can boldly say that they are both men of
> prayers and fasting and that both PERSONALLY want
> reconciliation and peace. Let us all pray that
> the church will prosper. Let us dedicate the
> coming Lent for that. My advice to young friends
> on both sides is to shed polemics and try to be
> more polite even where we disagree.
> May God bless our church and all its members." - Dr. Daniel Babu Paul
I like to share some important info with geniune Jacobites and truthful, the real Syrians under see of Antioch. 1) Dr. Babu Paul was saying other faction wasMessage 1 of 4 , Mar 24, 2002View SourceI like to share some important info with geniune
Jacobites and truthful, the real Syrians under see of
1) Dr. Babu Paul was saying other faction was saying
Patriarch cannot be trusted , this no Jacobite should
tolerate , let methrankashi blame our keralite bishops
but not Patriarch.if any one can ever trust any priest in the
whole world that is Patriarch the source of clean &
legitimate chosen priesthood.
2) There should not be any compromise in spiritual
matters, remember Jesus cleansed the temple of
jerusalem by whipping the fasle prophets and traders
in temple, we should do every thing even through
violence if necessary like Jesus whipped busineesmen
to make churches a house of prayer and not den of
robbers.Jacobites except few has lost respect
for all methran kashi because of their trivial actions
of prefunctionary customs and desire for wealth .These few
has been working in high places, if u examine U
can see corruption is highest in higher society, no
wonder economically kerala collapsed.
3) jacobites shouls form an international commitee and
inform all apostolic churches to isolate the methran
kashi and expose all their satanic acts shameful to
christians.it can only be seen as a den of suspended
bishops and false prophets who have failed to take
controll of Syrian Orthodox church
through an internal coup.Funded by businessmen and
Parvenus.Any insult to
patriarch and Holy throne of Antioch is insulting entire
apostolic churches,this has to be officially informed to all
apostolic churches immediately.
4) satan is a fallen angel, methran kashi is fallen
angles led by Satan in his efforts to conquer the most
pure and ancient christian church to insult Jesus
Christ.Patriarch should break silence and follow steps
of Patriarch Peter-III
in crushing the enemies of satan,fighting with satan
is no sin.
Bible says a student is never above his teacher,
Ten commandments says honour your father and mother ,
the false prophets who tries to take faithful through
internal coup should be stopped at any cost, even at
the point of death.Patriarch should excommunicate
renegade bishops who changed loyalty.
5) Jacobites should defend church at any cost like,
they defended, disobeying royal proclamation of
maharaja of Cochin to join Portuguese.Faith is above
law should be our motto in courts fail to provide us
justice. Who is Malimat to declare mathews II as Malankara
Metran without votes of
Jacobites.This is our final battle against our own
brothers like angles and satan fought and Satan fell
to earth who is with methran kashi.Always
refer them as "methran kashi" and 'not catholicose
faction', this word was coined by Manorama to to get
more weightage because of inferiority.
Beware of traitors, declare deepika or
mathruboomi as jacobite friendly official
newspar,impose church sanction against manorama,
8) Jacobites do not need to go to parumala anymore
because the saint is not there , the saint Gregorios
cannot live with satanic bishops, the reason for my
saying is that it is only the curse of Praumala
Thirumany which has destroyed that church,its
renovation with chareles kori's architecture is
hopeless and ugly.Architect Shilpi Babu with more than
40 churches construction experience was initially
assigned for job, but a person X from 'Muthoot family'
was adament in bringing foreign architect , hence
choria was bought and all together the false bishops
and business men destroyed that church.Jacobites go to
malakurish or pray themselves dont go to parumala,
parumala Thirumeni resides in your very heart and will
not be there in Parumala which is now den of robbers.
Pray to God , Parumala Thirumeni is in your very heart
, pray to God of Abraham Issac and Jacob the living
and not dead, if Jesus is alive the nemesis will
come,if God of Israel is our God he will defend us his
own like he has always defended us.
Cursed are the false prophets the catholicose mathews
II, who has made our church a den of robbers.
Cursed is Manorama, found by an honest man Varghese
Mapilla, later led by
Mamen Mappilai & his sons, through an internal coup.
Cursed is Mathai Nooranal,the priest who is a shame to
priest all over.
Glory be to the God oF Israel
Glory be to Jesus Christ.
Clory be to the Holy spirit.
A Humble Servant of Jesus Christ.Son of Jehova,God of Israel
A knight of the Order of Jacob Baradeus for empowering Jacobites under Holy Throne of Antioch, my mission.
How foolish is this man! You my dear brother in Christ need to calm down a little first. Keep in mind that you are fighting for the greed! power! and jealousy!Message 1 of 4 , Apr 2, 2002View SourceHow foolish is this man! You my dear brother in Christ need to calm down a
little first. Keep in mind that you are fighting for the greed! power! and
jealousy! of your Church leaders! It is quite funny you keep reiterating
peace and peace and peace mean while it is you all that are causing
UNHAPPINESS AND SHAME to the genuine Apostolic and un corrupt Faith!
And stop yapping about satanic ways...speak for yourself dear friend! read
your email and see who is satanic...Have you no shame calling your church
elders in fact any church elder satanic? Let me stop here for God only
judges not I...forgive me if I was harsh or spoke out of anger...it was my
mind...not my heart...for my heart weeps for foolish people like this
"knight without a cause"
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Sir, Why this personal abuse? I remember the the Malyalam poetry---Athukondarisam theeranjeetta purayute chuttum mandinadannu (since the anger continued heMessage 1 of 4 , Apr 8, 2002View SourceSir,
Why this personal abuse?
I remember the the Malyalam poetry---Athukondarisam
theeranjeetta purayute chuttum mandinadannu''
(since the anger continued he went around the house in
--- John Doe <orthodox_man@...> wrote:
> How foolish is this man! You my dear brother in_________________________________________________________________
> Christ need to calm down a
> little first. Keep in mind that you are fighting for
> the greed! power! and
> jealousy! of your Church leaders! It is quite funny
> you keep reiterating
> peace and peace and peace mean while it is you all
> that are causing
> UNHAPPINESS AND SHAME to the genuine Apostolic and
> un corrupt Faith!
> And stop yapping about satanic ways...speak for
> yourself dear friend! read
> your email and see who is satanic...Have you no
> shame calling your church
> elders in fact any church elder satanic? Let me stop
> here for God only
> judges not I...forgive me if I was harsh or spoke
> out of anger...it was my
> mind...not my heart...for my heart weeps for foolish
> people like this
> "knight without a cause"
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