Dear Friend, Your letter is full of factual errors. They are:- 1) The universal Syriac Orthodox Church practises the Antiochan tradition,Liturgy and vestmentsMessage 1 of 3 , Mar 11, 2002View SourceDear Friend,
Your letter is full of factual errors. They are:-
1) The universal Syriac Orthodox Church practises the Antiochan
tradition,Liturgy and vestments of the clergy, and not alexandrian.
2) The syriac speaking members of the church are less in number than
the malayalam speaking syriac christians because of the persecution
the former had to endure througout the centuries due to their faith.
Matters of faith and tradition are not decided by majority decision.
Now you can do these things in your association meeting at Parumala.
1) You can elect a Patriarch from your meeting and install him.
2) You can institute a national church with its liturgy in malayalam
or sanskrit and remove everything which is syriac
3) You can remove all foreign Gods, apostles,saints etc from your
prayer books and start every thing with true national spirit.
--- In SOCM-FORUM@y..., "thomas_pa1" wrote:
> Considering the huge difference in number between Syrians
> and Indians following the Alexandrian Christological tradition
> (Oriental Orthodox), why there was no Indian born Patriarch of
> Anthioc? Is there any Canon which states that a Patriarch must
> be elected from a person of Syriac ancestry?
> Thank you,
Malankara Association will add a `black chapter to Church history: Dionysios ANGAMALY: The Malankara Association proposed to convene by Catholicos Mathews IIMessage 1 of 3 , Mar 11, 2002View Source
Malankara Association will add a `black chapter' to Church history: Dionysios
ANGAMALY: The Malankara Association proposed to convene by Catholicos Mathews II against Supreme Court verdict, will add a "black chapter" to the history of Malankara Church, Catholicos -designate Thomas Mar Dionysios told mediapersons here yesterday.'
'Mar Dionysios declared the official policy and stand of Malankara Jacobite Syrian Church at the press conference held in the famous St Mary's Jacobite Church here.'
'The controversial Malankara Association meeting at Parumala on March 20, will only help to give birth to a new church, Indian Orthodox Church, headed by Mathews II, deflecting from Malankara Church, Mar Dionysios said.'
'The ancient Syrian Church will continue as it is, by keeping the true faith and tradition, abiding by the court orders indicating the Patriarch of Antioch is the supreme spiritual head of Malankara Sabha and establishing the autonomy of Parish church, Mar Dionysios said.'
'More than 1,000 parish churches have already pledged its support to Malankara Jacobite Church. Many churches presently under Mathews II will join the true Jacobite Church, leaving Mathew II.'
'The historic pledge, proposed to take by metropolitans, priests and laity of Malankara Jacobite Church on March 20; declaring the future course of action, will be a second Koonankurissu Sathyam and known as Puthencruz pledge in Sabha history, Mar Dionysios said.'
'The Viswa Samrakshana Samithy formed in more than 1,000 parish churches having 8 lakh members, will protect the assets of the churches, following only non-violence methods. But the Sabha which always welcomes reconciliation and peace efforts will not remain mute spectator, if the Sabha is attacked from any corner. The members of the Sabha will be ready to sacrifice their lives to protect its tradition and faith and to keep Antioch-Malankara relation, Mar Dionysios added.'
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Dear Members, There may not be a fixed race for Partiarch.However in the modern world with its geographic bifurcations based on race or religion,to haveMessage 1 of 3 , Mar 11, 2002View SourceDear Members,
There may not be a fixed race for Partiarch.However in the modern world
with its geographic bifurcations based on race or religion,to have
Partriarch based at Syria ,that too of Indian orgin may be politically
There was a time when Antioch and all the east had much more christains
than that of Kerala. But many were killed and percecuted by Muslims. Turks
killed thousand of them. Many have migated to different parts of the world.
Now the whole land is occupied by Muslims. Hence comparing numbers has no
The position of Patriarch need not be compared to that of Pope. Rome is a
small but Independent Christain Republic.They can have a Pope of any
nationality there. But so far I have not heard an Indian Pope.
Catholic population is more than that of us,even in India..
Can we have a catholicos of Tamil orgin? Can we have a catholicos from a
lower caste who is converted?Why did we make" Pulapally" for the coverted
christains.?Why a friend of the poor like Mukkanjeril Thrirumeni will not
be a saint,
but Vattseril Thirumeni who was a friend of the rich (mafia lord) is a
We shall remove the log from our eyes before trying to remove a speck of
dust from our brother's eye!!
If MM and company had shifted Patriarchate instead of Maprianate, we
had a Patriarch of Numbudiri Orgin.!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <"thomas_pa1"@...>
> To: <SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:01 PM
> Subject: [SOCM-FORUM] An Indian Patriarch of Anthioc
> > Considering the huge difference in number between Syrians
> > and Indians following the Alexandrian Christological tradition
> > (Oriental Orthodox).........