--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@y..., "Ron Matviyak" <amiak@a...> wrote:
> That sounds like a point for a native-speaking (or linguistically
> Slovak to clarify... "Why, she would use name Pavliková, but her
> was still
> I have seen married couples buried under headstones engraved
> Pavlikova", thus "Pavlikova" seems to be the family / possessive
> Can someone clarify this?
As a rule of Slovak grammar, female surnames end in -á, -ská,
The feminine form of the surnames is considered merely a separate form
of same surname, not a distinct surname in itself.
The obligatory change for gender in Czech and Slovak surnames was
expressed through the ending -ová.
Grammatically speaking, these endings are considered adjectives,
so they form grammatical endings which include the distinction
between masculine and feminine genders.
Female surnames ending in -ová behave like adjectives.
Family surnames ending in -y' use a female form -á.
To je pani Vilikovská.
This is Mrs. Vilkovská.
Pán Kovác^ a pani Kovác^ová nie sú doma.
Mr. Kovác^ and Mrs. Kovác^ová aren't at home.
Is "Brabcova" a strictly feminine surname?
If so, what would the masculine version of the name be?
I've seen a lot of Czech websites with women having last names that
ended with "-ova".
Brabcova is a strictly feminine surname.
The masculine equivalent would most likely be Brabec. Generally, the
female surname is like an adjective to the male surname.
In many cases, this is accounted for by "ova" ending. Bartos &
Bartosova, Krcal & Krcalova, etc. Sometimes, spelling changes a
little: Brabec & Brabcova, Zima & Zimova, Janicek & Janickova. When
the male surname ends with -y (it is the adjective itself), the
form ends with -a: Novotny & Novotna, Tichy & Ticha.
Only a few surnames do not change the form: Jakubu & Jakubu.
Poznáte pani Vilikovskú ?
Do you know Mrs. Vilikoská ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: frankly1us <frankur@a...>
> To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:47 AM
> Subject: [S-R] Re: Spelling of surname of wife
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@y..., Mebjwb@a... wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I understand that in Czech/Slovak culture, the wife's name was a
> version of
> > her husband's surname. I cannot remember what the version would
> > anyone tell me what name the wife would use for "Pavlik"?
> > Based on that information, were those surname versions used in
> > I cannot find my maternal Grandmother's name on any lists for
> > from 1899 (arrival of Grandfather) through 1906. They were
> > they emigrated, and they show his status as "M". She came here
> twice, but
> > I cannot find her listed.
> > I would like to say thanks to all of you for responding to my
> questions, and
> > giving so much helpful information. I really do appreciate it.
> > Marge Bonifield
> Why, she would use name Pavliková, but her family name was still
> Using Slovakia telephone directory enter Pavlik under Bra
> 130 surnames are listed broken out between Pavlik (males) and
> Pavliková (females)
> Today, most -ovás listed on the WWW are 'Miss Slavic World
> something', or professionals, DR. or Engineer etc.
> One of most common Slavic surname affixes is the one denoting gender
> of the bearer -ová (Slovak), -owa (Polish), and -oba (Russian).
> As a rule of Slovak grammar, female surnames end in -á, -ská,
> or -ová.
> The feminine form of the surnames is considered merely a separate
> of same surname, not a distinct surname in itself.
> If the surname is adjectival in origin , i.e., ends in -y', the
> changes to -á, so that wife of pán (Mr.) C^erny' would be pani
> (Mrs.) C^erná and their daughter would be slec^na (Miss)
> If surname is a noun in form or origin the suffix -ová is added
> it,e.g., pán Kovác^, pani Kovác^ová, slec^na
> -ova version of surname wasn't used often in ship manifests because
> most ships Slavic emigrants used were German from German ports of
> exit. (some may dispute this)
> And in some ship manifests a woman may have been listed under her
> name, eventhough she was married under another surname.
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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