I do not know what year he came over. How can you find out if there are
naturalization papers for someone? I just know that he came through Ellis
Island because he complained alot to my grandma about how horrible a trip it
was on a cattle boat to there.
I have weeded out many of the Heindl's in my line with my website, though I
have met and connected many of the others as well.
I haven't got anywhere with the Pitour side. All that I have is John's Death
Certificate. He was married twice and had kids with both, so it's very hard
to know if the person who filled out the info on the death cert knew what
they were talking about. I would love to be able to get a copy of his birth
certificate or immigration/naturalization info so that I could go further
with his family line.
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: [S-R] Re: HEINDL or PITOUR surnames
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@y..., deidreh@t... wrote:
> I am looking for help with getting documents from Czech. My great
> great grandfather Adam HEINDL came over from Bohemia through Ellis
> Island. At that time they changed the spelling to HEINDEL. He moved
> to the Saginaw are of Michigan. Some of his children spelled it with
> the extra 'E' and some did not. Also, I know that my grandmothers
> father, John PITOUR was from Prague, Czech, but I have no further
> info about it, except that he was born in 1880. This info is per his
> death certificate from the saginaw, MI area.
> Any idea how to find out where in Bohemia someone is from if that is
> the only info you have? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Probably 500-750 surname Heindl bearers just in the U.S.
Probably 600-900 surname Heindel bearers just in the U.S.
The surnames are probably of German ethnicity *
German and Czech languages were both used in former Czech-Bohemia.
Bohemia = Böhmen (G)
The German telephone White Pages list thousands of Heindl/Heindel
Was your great GF naturalized ?
Naturalization papers usually list surname birth place ?
In what year did he emigrate to the U.S. via NYC port of entry
(Ellis Island) ?
The current Czech telephone directory list 2 surname Pitour under
Frantis^ek (Frank) Pitour
Libuse Pitourová (feminine version of family name Pitour)
* The German ethnic group in Bohemia were known as Sudenten Germans.
After the end of WW II, the Czechs expelled the approx. 3.0 million
Germans in Czechoslovakia (especially those from the Sudentenland)
back to Germany and ethnically cleansed 200,000 by starvation and
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