Greetings to the List,
First my apologies for not getting the post finished before sending and also for not having my name at the end of the post. ( I have a very helpful kitten)
The image of The Eyeglass Seller (Dirk Vellert) very clearly shows the front overlapped bodice that is very appealing to me.
I had meant to include this link and ask about the skirt portion of these types of gowns, which seem to be a transition and the phrase I 'barrowed' from Hope Greenberg's site.
I really want to make this one and do it as period as possible. I have some lovely fabric but I have cutting fear (as it was expensive and I do want to do it right) I found metal findings that are soooo similar to the floral bits that is decorating the neckline and CF of the bodice.
I have been looking at similar images for several weeks now. I have seen what looks like pleating or rolled pleats in the back of the few images I have found but the images have a very similar theme. Ladies have their arms at the waist, thus obsuring the seam or lack there of.
There are several images of the waist exposed but no definate seam is visable. (could be artistic license)
Could be the gown be cut 2 full front pieces, seperate back bodice and skirt. Some of the images look flat in the front = full front or rectangular skirt piece that is only gathered in the back. Or four piece bodice with flat front or very limited gathering/pleats in front and most in the back of the gown. (similar even to the mid 16th century tudor working womans style of gown)
I hope that I have worded this correctly and my apologies for not including other links (my computer is not my friend) Some of the images have come from the write up that Hope Greenberg has on the web. Kimiko Small has some useful information at her site as well.
Thank you for any input in advance.
Lyonet (who banned the kitten from the room for the typing of this missive)
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> > http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/nl00025c10a.jpg
> My guess is low countries, about 1518 or so. I think "transitional" is not necessarily the best description because depending on your context (what endpoints you set) you can really call anything transitional and be correct. It only means anything if you are talking to people who understand your context and have a focus that matches the two periods you consider it transitional between. I'd call it Tudor era Dutch.
> Cool pic of the period glasses. Love the way he has bunches of them, stored in the box.