hmmm will the original maker of this list please step forward? Gaelen ________________________________ From: Ld.blackmoon To:Message 1 of 10 , Apr 18View Sourcehmmm will the original maker of this list please step forward?
From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
greetingsI wish it was my list : )a lot of those look like a lot of fun , and there are some similar shoots if I recall, but I'm pretty sure someone else made that list... ( that or I really am going senile : / )I'm studying for finals ,( yes I'm finally working on college ) but will try to dig my list of shoots out soon , maybe we could get the newsletter to print something like a shoot of the month , with a new shoot every month ?if everyone sent in their shoot list, or even just their favorite shoot .Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur----- Original Message -----From: John EdgertonSent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:21 AMSubject: Re: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideasThen congratulations to Arthur for writing them up as well as to you for bringing them up.There are some good ideas in the list and I hope to see some discussion of them.Jon
From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 8:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
THe credit goes to Arthur I beleive he created the list if I remember right
Gaelen AKA Taslen
From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:09 PM
Subject: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
Taslen posted some excellent ideas on archery shoots and targets. However, I have seen no discussion of those ideas. So ... I am posting them again for comment.Jon********No virus found in this message.
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AHAH so it was you!!!!! Thanks Cog! ________________________________ From: The Greys To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,Message 1 of 10 , Apr 18View SourceAHAH so it was you!!!!! Thanks Cog!
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
The list in question seems to be a re-post of the list I placed in the Files section of this group April 15, 2011, Shoot Ideas. This is merely a list of shoots ideas I have collected over time. I posted it so that my fellows of the bow could use any of them and perhaps add a few more to the list.
Jon, This was one of my initial ideas for use of the list. Gaelen ________________________________ From: Jonathas To:Message 1 of 10 , Apr 18View SourceJon,
This was one of my initial ideas for use of the list.
From: Jonathas <Jonathas@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
I've seen a number of emails each trying to dodge the credit for the list. As this is a very extensive list of *ideas* but none are directly useable for the SSAC, how about this;
Anyone is free to take their favorite idea from the list and flesh it out to a full fledged SSAC Proposal. Please post the proposals back to the list for questioning and clarification (please have a subject line something like 'SSAC Proposal - <title> ' so the thread is easy to follow). I will get them added to the SSAC list as quickly as possible. Should you not see your proposal in the list after a week, please ping me off-list as I may have missed the email. Likewise, if you find something that needs clarified in your shoot, please be sure to email me off-list with the new wording.
Remember the entire shoot must be reproducible society wide, so targets must either be widely available or easily hand made, range configurations must be well defined. While this can be a challenge, it can still make for interesting shoots, thought some of the ideas on the list are best left for non-standardized event shoots.This will give us a large number of proposals for future seasons.
JonathasOn Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:09 PM, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
Taslen posted some excellent ideas on archery shoots and targets. However, I have seen no discussion of those ideas. So ... I am posting them again for comment.Jon********Archery Target/Shoot IdeasNo.NameDescription15 Plates5 foam diner plates about 6 inches in diameter are placed on a butt at 20 yards. Archers get 12 arrows. Each hit on a plate counts 1 point. HOWEVER for a second hit on one plate to count all plates must be hit first.2Bull’s Eye and 6 boxesWith 12 arrows, archers must score a Bull’s Eye at 20 yards before using remaining arrows to score on boxes set at random distances. Boxes set further from shooting line score higher than boxes close.3Clout Shoot6 arrows shot at a man sized target 100 yards out within a 30 foot diameter circle. Arrows striking the man score 3 points, arrows falling and remaining inside the circle score 1 point. Score of arrows determined by resting place of arrow point. i.e. an arrow at the back line with it’s point outside the circle does not count.4Clout variationSame as above but distances are 75 – 125 yards.5DuelTwo archers shoot at a target 24 inches in diameter 20 yards out. Archers begin with no arrow on the string and draw hand on top of head. At marshal’s “Go”, archers draw an arrow and shoot target. First archer to score wins. Other archer is eliminated. Last archer standing wins. This may be run with a loser’s bracket then final pairing is winner from winning bracket shoots against winner from loser’s bracket.6QuintainAt 20 yards archers get 6 arrows to score on targets approximately 6 inches in diameter. There are four target faces placed on the arms (4) of a rotating device. Each successive hit causes more rotation.Alternate method – two targets of one color, two targets of another color. Archers score positive points by hitting their opponents color and lose points if they hit their own.7PendulumArchers get 6 arrows to score 1 point for each hit on a target face, 6 inches diameter, on a pendulum. The pendulum must be moving when struck. Once pendulum stops swinging shooting ceases. Could also be a timed shoot.8Pendulum behind a crenellationThe target face is swinging behind a crenellation. Archers get 6 arrows to score, one point per hit on target.9Popup6 arrows scoring 1 point per hit on a target that is randomly popping up. (A marshal pulls a string that causes the target to pop up.)10Walk up/Walk backArchers get 12 arrows to shoot at a target of pre-determined distance. After shooting 2 arrows the line moves up a few steps then shoots 2 more arrows until all 12 arrows are shot. Score that round then repeat walking back away from target. Distances are to be random.11CubeArchers get 6 arrows to put 4 arrows in, they must stick, an 8 inch Styrofoam cube. Cube is placed at 20 yards to start.12Window slotArchers get 6 arrows to score on a castle window slot shot.Option 1 – the window slot is 6 inch wide and 3 feet long. 1 point per arrow inside the slot.Option 2 – the inner slot is 2 inch with two outer slots, one per side, of 2 inches each. 3 points per arrow in the inner slot, 1 point per arrow in either of the outer slots.
13Shoot through windowArchers shoot at a target through a window. Old tires make great windows. Obstructions like tree limbs/branches, brush, hay bales also make good obstructions.14Advancing warriorTargets are placed a 20 – 70 yards distance, 10 yard intervals. Archers get 10 seconds per distance and score only if they hit the distance being called out. This may be an advancing or retreating warrior shoot.15Stuffed AnimalsStuffed animals placed at varying distances. Each animal is worth different points. Number of arrows to be determined as well as must the arrow stick or simply knock the animal over.16Tic Tac ToeA tic/tac/toe game cross is made and set at 20 yards. One archer shoots to claim a square, then opponent shoots to either block or claim a square. Winner determined as in “normal” tic tac toe.17Random high scorer next shotArchers begin with 4 – 6 arrows at 20 yards and a standard 5 ring target. Archer with highest score determines the next shot. The archer who uses the least number of arrows to hit the target determines the next shot. In the event of a tie, the original “winner” continues the lead.This shoot requires a range that provides multiple target options while standing at any one place.18Walk aroundUsing the same range above, a course is laid out. Archers get 4 – 6 arrows and must hit the designated target. Once the target is hit, the archer stops shooting. The score is the total number of arrows shot. Archer with the lowest score wins. i.e. if an archer can hit every target on the first arrow their score is the total number of targets hit. If, using 6 arrows, the archer completely misses the target their score is 7. A 1 arrow penalty for completely missing the target.Option 2 – Each target has a value equal to the number of arrows allowed, i.e. 6. The number of arrows it takes to hit the target is subtracted from the target value for the score, i.e. archer hits on first arrow, score 6 – 1 = 5. Archer with highest score wins.19ARCHERArchers begin by shooting arrows into a standard 5 ring target at 20 yards. Archer with the highest score determines the next shot. Archers who miss the shot get a letter. Once an archer has spelled out ARCHER they are eliminated. The number of arrows is determined by the marshal dependent upon the skill of the archers. This shoot is run on the same course for Walk Around shoot.20Balloon shootBalloons are placed on a butt at 20 yards. One person calls the color and the archer must hit that color balloon.21Water bag seesawPlastic bags are suspended from each end of a line (forming a T, line goes through pulleys). Bags are filled with equal amounts of water so they both hang at the same height. On “Go” the archers shoot at the bags. First archer to have their bag reach the top of it’s suspension arm wins. (As one bag drains the other bag will fall down thereby raising the other bag. The objective is to shoot your bag in a manner that causes the water to drain out before your opponent can do same.)
22Advancing ManA man sized target is mounted on a sled that starts at ~40 yards. On go, the sled is pulled towards the archers who are shooting as many arrows as they can get off in the time allowed. The pulling works best if one person simply grabs the rope attached to the sled and walks back from the shooting line.23Call the colorThere are 4 or 5 targets at various ranges from the shooting line. The marshal calls out a color giving the archers 5 seconds to hit that color. Archers get points only for arrows hitting targets of the currently called color. Arrows hitting the wrong target count against the total score. It is best to give 5 – 7 seconds per color.24Army shootThere are 4 – 5 “soldiers” in front of the “general”. Hits on the general count 2 points, hits on the “soldiers” count 1 point. However, each “soldier” must be hit for hits on the general to count. Timed shoot of approximately 45 seconds.25Friend/foe shootArchers shoot at a man sized target with a friend and foe (i.e. one warrior hitting another warrior). Timed shoot with points for hits on the foe and points deducted for hits on the friend.26Knock downsTargets are placed behind crenulations and knock down when hit. Timed end with points for each target hit. (A good way to make the knock down targets is to frame them in wood and place a hinge on the bottom attached to the main rail all the targets sit on.)27Three position shootArchers get 2 arrows standing, 2 kneeling, and 2 laying down at a target. You can also add shooting through a window to this shoot. Castle slot windows work fine. Laying down shot is done shooting under the window frame.28Moving targetA target is suspended from rollers on a line. On GO the target is released and moves perpendicular to the shooting line. Archers may shot as many arrows as they can get off before the target comes to rest.This shoot can also be done with the target moving towards the archers.29GroupingArchers shoot 6 arrows at an unmarked target, i.e. no bull’s eye marking. After all arrows are shot the score is the measurement around the 6 arrows. Any arrow missing the entire butt is a 2 foot penalty. May be shot at any distance.30Roll The Dice orSpin for LuckArchers either spin a dial or roll a cube. Which ever color comes up they get one arrow to hit the target of that color. Targets are set at random distances. One point per target hit. The arrow must stick in the target.31Unfamiliar equipmentArchers use equipment that is unfamiliar to them to shoot for score on a standard Royal Round target face. Equipment provided by marshal (loaner gear to be used).32Reverse ScoringReverse the scoring points on the standard Royal Round target face.33Reverse objectiveArchers shoot 1(?) arrow at the target face. All must hit the outer most ring, white, to advance to the next round. Archers move inward, next inner most color, until a winner is determined. If more than one archer survives to the gold color repeat but call each ring. i.e. Outer most white ring, next inner white ring, etc.34TeamArchers work a course grouped in teams. Each team must be made up of a beginning, intermediate and advanced archer. (May do in groups larger than three but multiples of three if possible.)35Seventh ArrowSix arrows for score on your target. 7th arrow shot at opponent’s target for score on yours or decrement theirs.36Quick ShotArchers get 15 seconds to shoot as many arrows as they can get off. High score wins.Variation: Three targets are set at random distances. Archers must score on each target before time ends. Lowest time wins.37Pivot ShotThis shoot requires a large range. Targets are set around archer. That is, the archer stands in the middle of where the targets are. Objective is to hit each target. Can be timed as above, or least number of arrows to score wins. The order of the targets can be predetermined or left to the archer.38String GroupEach archer is given a piece of string, i.e. 3 feet long. They shoot three (?) arrows at the butt from 20 yards. Each archer wraps the string around their three arrows and cuts that amount off their string. Archer who still has string wins. This is a test of grouping not just hitting the center of the target.39Hit the MarkIn the distance there is a post. Each archer shoots a set number of arrows aiming to hit as close as possible to the post/mark. Each arrow scores 5 points if within one bow length, 3 points if 1 ½ bow lengths, 1 point if 2 ½ bow lengths. Nothing for outside two bow lengths. The archer’s bow is used for the measuring stick. Short bows get a penalty, long bows an advantage. ½ bow length could be from lower limb nock end to arrow rest. If a long bow with no arrow rest then top of hand wrap.40Heraldic ColorsArchers must hit the color called at the time. Color is called using heraldic speak.41Pairs quick shotA 12 inch inside measurement cardboard frame is suspended from a balloon or other breakable object. The first archer must break the object to free the frame to fall. The second archer must put an arrow through the frame without hitting the actual frame itself to prevent it from hitting the ground.42Accuracy walk backThe target is a 4 inch plate. Archer’s start at 10 yards and get 3 arrows to hit the target. As soon as they hit the target, they qualify. i.e. if they hit it on the first arrow they need not shoot the other two. After all have qualified, they move back 10 yards and shoot again. Continue until a winner is declared.43Three HoopsThere are three hoops with paper in them on an arm that rotates horizontally. The objective for the archer is to shoot one arrow so it pierces all three hoop papers.44Tube ShotThere is a tube about 3 – 4 inches in diameter 3 feet long mounted horizontally with one open end facing the archer. The archer must shoot an arrow through the tube to hit the target behind.45Byron Ferguson Coke Bottle ShotA bottle of soda is mounted horizontally on a hay bale with the top facing away from the archer. On the bottle cap is a bottle opener. The objective is to hit the bottle opener so it pops the cap off the soda bottle and allows the soda to pour into an awaiting cup below.46Move the CubeOrSadistic Sara’s ShotA Styrofoam cube is placed at a random distance. Each archer gets three arrows to hit and move the cube. The archer moving the cube the farthest wins.This shoot may be done in teams of two each shooting three arrows. The order in which the arrows are shot is left up to the team.47Fenri’s ChallengeThe target is 4 inches wide, 36 inches long. Exactly 18 inches from the bottom the stripe is bisected with a 12 wide by 4 inches tall cross piece. Scoring could be 3 points for the cross member, 1 point for the vertical.A variation is to color the inner square of the vertical and cross member overlap. That square is 3 points, the cross member 2 points and the vertical 1 point.48Roll The DiceTwo dice are used. One has an hour glass on the 1 mark with the other 5 marks as is with numbers. The other die has a circle, wand and man marked on each of two sides. The second die is cast to determine the target to shoot, the first die cast to determine how many arrows will be shot or if timed (hour glass). Archers shoot in pairs one each casting a die. The targets are a circle the size of the 3 point ring, wand as a castle window shoot, and man sized target, at 20 , 30, 40 yards. Scoring is the highest scorer gets the difference between the scores. i.e. Bobby Jo scores 4 hits, Franky scores 1 hit. Bobby Jo gets a score of 3.49Rood ShootRood = 7.5 yards. At 3 roods, shoot three arrows at a 6 inch diameter target. Once all three arrows hit the target, move back 1 rood and increase the target diameter by 2 inches. Continue.50Cube shootUse a Styrofoam cube about 8 – 12 inches per side. Starting at a distance of about 15 yards archers get 4 – 6 shafts to hit the cube. Score one hit per side. Multiple shafts in one side only count as one. Objective is to hit the cube and move it to present a new side to hit.51Twisted color blockTarget is strips of colored tape 4 inches wide 8 – 12 inches long mounted vertically next to each other. Each color repeats twice on the block. Thus red would be represented twice. Below this is a second block of rainbow colors using the same colors but mounted in a manner such that red is not below red. Each archer is assigned a color. Each shaft hitting a color scores, whether or not it was the color owners shaft. Shafts on the lines count for the color in which the majority of the shaft resides. Shafts that truly split colors count for both colors.52Slot shot variationTarget 10 inches high 2 feet wide. One piece of 2 inch wide tape of different color mounted down center horizontally and vertically. In the center at the cross is a 2 inch square. Target set at 40 yards. Scoring: 1 point for hitting anywhere on the 2’ X 10” target, 2 points for hitting the vertical/horizontal tape, 3 points for any hit on the 2 X 2 center.53Stacked cubesTarget is foam blocks about 8 – 10 inches square stacked on top of each other. 4 cubes in all sitting on top of a 5th cube which is not shot. Object is to shoot off the top cube then the next, etc. 12 arrows max. Score is total number of arrows needed to shoot off 4 cubes. Each cube has a penalty of 3 points (if using 4 cubes). i.e. if the first shot knocks the whole stack down then the score is 1 + (4 X 3) = 13. If the first cube is shot off with one arrow then the next arrow knocks the remaining three cubes down, score is 2 + (3 X 3) = 11. Best score is 4.54Grouping shotArcher shoots 10 arrows at 30 yards. After arrows are shot, the archer decides which 3 arrows will determine the “center” point. Measure out a 5 inch radius circle. Every arrow in the circle counts 1 point. Distance could vary as well as total number of arrows shot.55Near MissThe target is a hard Styrofoam ball on a pole/fiberglass rod about 20 yards out. The object is to nick the ball without having the arrow either stick in the ball or knock it off the pole/rod. Each archer gets 6 arrows. Each arrow nicking the ball gets one point. Arrows that knock the ball off or stick in the ball score -2 points. A nick is defined as moving the ball or making a noise. Nicks scored at archer and marshal’s discretion.
56Hanging cubeA cube is hanging from a rope/string at some distance. Archers get 6 shafts. One point for each side of the cube hit. Arrows must remain in cube after all shooting to count. Multiple shafts in one side only count one point.Variation – Color the sides of cube, i.e. red and black. Points for red, minus points for black.57Water bag challenge variationThis is a variation of the water bag challenge shoot. The target has a water bag on one side and a weight on the other. The weight is such that it will only go to the bottom after all the water has leaked out of the bag. There will be an indicator on the weight/rope/device. As the archer shoots the bag to cause the water to leak out, the weight descends. After 6 shafts either the bag is completely empty or somewhere in between. Score is according.Variation – Each archer gets 6 shafts to empty the bag. Maximum score is 6 and the first arrow is free. Each arrow shot then deducts from the max score of 6. i.e. if the archer shoots all 6 shafts their score is 1. If they are able to empty the bag after 2 shafts their score is 5. If the empty the bag on the first shot their score is 6. Scoring could be simply how many arrows used to empty the bag with lowest score winning.58Water balloons on an arm5 – 6 water balloons are hanging off of an arm. As the water balloons are shot the arm tilts up. The archer who either shoots all balloons or shots the most balloons wins.59Four In LineTarget: 3 in postit notes arranged 4 wide and 4 tall. Each postit is slightly more than one arrow diameter apart such that an arrow between the notes can not score on each note. Three ends shot at 20 yards.End 1 – Horizontal, shoot any four squares to make a horizontal rowEnd 2 – Vertical, shoot any four squares to make a vertical rowEnd 3 – Shoot the four squares that make up the center squareEnd 4 – Shoot the four cornersScoring: Each archer gets a maximum of 12 arrows. If all four squares are hit count the number of arrows shot and subtract from 14. If an archer shoots all 12 arrows and misses four squares their score is 1. If an archer shoots less than 12 arrows and still misses one square of the four, their score is 0. An archer shoots 6 arrows hitting four squares, their score is 8 (14-6).60Advancing arrowsTargets are set out at varying distances. Number of targets is up to marshal. Archers must put one arrow in each target until they are out of arrows. Only one arrow per target hit. Then, starting with closest target, archers glean arrows and can shoot any other target or second to last target thereby advancing arrows. If they miss, that arrow can not be used. At the second to last target the number of arrows stuck in that target are used to shoot the final target. The score is the number of arrows stuck in the final target. This is a bit of a walk around shoot with limited arrows.61Balloon shootBalloons are either filled with helium or hung from a rod. The object is to hit a certain color for points. Negative points for wrong color hit. A slight breeze really makes this shot interesting.62Quick shootTarget is a rotating arm with a loop on one end and a pointer on the other. The loop end is suspended by a balloon. The archer must first pop the balloon to cause the pendulum arm to swing. The second arrow must hit in the loop to stop the pendulum arm. The score is where the pointer is pointing when it stops. If an arrow stops the arm without being in the loop the archer looses.An alternative is to simply stop the pendulum arm with an arrow any where on the face, i.e. below the arm to stop it.63Challenge shootThree or four targets. One at a distance and long and narrow vertically mounted. The next two can be lollipops of something of same ilk. Last target, close, is something that drops down when hit. This is a timed shoot. On LOOSE archers begin shooting with distant target first moving closer. Shafts must stick in target to advance to next target. Archer who finishes first wins.64Paired shootTarget – a 1 inch wide frame 12 inches inside measurement suspended from a string attached to the base of a balloon. First archer must pop balloon. Second archer must place a shaft inside the frame to arrest it’s fall to the ground. Hits on the frame do not count. The frame must be allowed to fall free, i.e. pass a line, before arresting is valid. This shoot involves two archers sequenced.65Massed balloonsBalloons of two colors are hanging from a vertical rod but bunched close together. Archers must hit balloons of a defined color. 1 point for balloon of their color hit, -2 points for balloon of opposite color. A slight breeze makes this a very interesting shot.If group against group, then each group each archer shoots one shaft. Same scoring, each group declares a color.66Called colorCrowd pleaser. Balloons of different colors are mounted to a target. The crowd calls out the color balloon to hit.67Dropping FrameA frame is hanging by a short string from the bottom of a balloon sitting on a wire loop stuck in the top of a 4 X 8 foot backstop. The first archer must pop the balloon allowing the frame to drop. The second archer must prevent the frame from hitting the ground by placing an arrow inside. The first frame is 12 inches inside, square. As pairs advance, reduce the size of the frame.684 Plate AccuracyStart with 4 6 inch plates/disks spaced out on the target at 25 yards. Each archer gets 6 arrows. The object is to put an arrow in each plate. Each hit scores 1 point. Multiple hits on one plate/disk only count 1 point. Each arrow left in the quiver/not shot, counts 1 point only if all 4 plates are hit. Maximum score is 6, 4 hits and 2 arrows unshot. As archers advance reduce the size of the plates/disks to be hit.Variation – Allow one minute to shoot the plates/disks. Var 2 – 8 shafts.69Quick pick up shootArchers start with their bow and one arrow on the ground in front of them. On “GO” they pick up their bow and arrow and shoot at the target. The target can be a standard RR target at 20 yards. They get the score their arrow hits. A bonus goes to the archer that hits the target first. (There should be an incentive to be first to launch an arrow.)70Multiple shotsArchers shoot at a standard RR target face at 20 yards. 6 shafts but they only get to pull the bow string three times. This shot requires three double arrow shots.71Spell ItTarget – Letters of the alphabet at 20 yards. Archers draw a word out of a hat must then shoot to spell that word.72Wheel ShootTargets – Six 12 to 15 inches in diameter arranged with
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We are going to do a crenelation shoot Saturday archer hides behind cover has 5 seconds to step out and shoot at a 20 yard away target and then has fiveMessage 1 of 10 , Apr 18View SourceWe are going to do a crenelation shoot Saturday archer hides behind cover has 5 seconds to step out and shoot at a 20 yard away target and then has five seconds to get back behind cover or his shots do not count. If anyone is interested I can post the rest of the description.Gaelen
From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] shoot ideas
Then congratulations to Arthur for writing them up as well as to you for bringing them up.There are some good ideas in the list and I hope to see some discussion of them.Jon