How being a Coursing, Falconry, Angling and Hunting are different
from being a Houndsman, Fisherman, or a Huntsman in Period: The first
group were activities engaged in by those with Status and Nobility.
The second group are job titles of those who were Common, engaging in
Livelihoods (what we today call "Careers"). The SCA is built around
re-creating the excitement of the Mediaeval period -- and being
Common just isn't "exciting", is it.
I know, it has been said so many times, and in so many ways, that it
has grown old -- yet it is still just as true: Chivalry is not just a
name for an Order of Nobility in the SCA.
It is far past time that all who consistently exhibit Chivalric
Behavior, Dedication and Skill in their chosen Activity, whether they
are a Knight or a kitchen worker, are EQUALLY recognized for their
work, behavior, skill and dedication in their chosen Activity. No
matter what that Activity happens to be.
But I have the feeling that, in the long run, Liam (the Doryman) is
p.s., Why are there Falconry Laurels - but no Hunting Laurels (that I
am aware of)? The only real difference, in Period (and Modernly,
too), is that the former makes use of a trained bird to obtain the
--Artúr, very tired of the mantra of "They are all equal -- it's just
that some are more equal than others".
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Jessie" <liam_meyrick@...> wrote:
> Lord James,
> I do follow the ideal, if you see a job that needs doing,
> simply do it.
> No fan fare, no "bs", just do it.
> Help set up the tents, pick up the trash, serve the food,
> wash the dishes, etc.
> I see no reason to desire anything for being a decent sort.
> But my "art" is fishing.
> I have entered some of my things in A&S faires, and gotten
> comments on one of my net traps like, "thats a lot of string" from
> a weaving laural.
> I will endeavor to continue to spread the religion of fishing, as
> grandfather called it, because it brings peace to a mans soul.
> (he also said you need only be smarter than the fish to catch them)
> In Service,
> Liam (the Doryman)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James of the Lake" <jotl2008@...>
> To: <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] BoD request for comment on peerage
> > Seems like I met a greyhound Laurel at Gulf Wars last March.
> > Besides, there is always the Pelican for service.
> > James
> > who help his Mistress put on four afternoons of Coursing at
> > XXV. jotl
> > On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Jessie wrote:
> >> Sir John,
> >> I heartily endorse the idea of Laurals putting back the
> >> highly skilled, into their ranks.
> >> Alas, I feel it will not help the Huntsmen or Coursing.
> >> To many of the Lauralate view hunters, fishermen, and
> >> houndsmen as simple curiosities or worse.
> >> It does not seem to make a difference that hunting in all
> >> of it's forms was considered a mainstay of social interaction
> >> in period.
> >> I do know several falconers that have been lauraled, and one
> >> angler, but none else.
> >> I apologize for being slightly down, but I can not see a way
> >> for this group (huntsmen) of very highly skilled people to
> >> overcome the prejudice of those who abhore hunting.
> >> I suppose thats is partly because we a bit "rough" in our
> >> manners, and more independant in our actions.
> >> In Service,
> >> Laird Liam Meyrick (the Doryman)
> >> Steward of Piscatoral Activities
> >> Middle Kingdom Hunt Guild