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At the last Meridian Kingdom A&S Competion there were three archery entries. That is very low given what I know of archery crafting that is being done. I talked with the people that entered about how they could improve their documentation. But the real payoff as far as I was concerned was that in the discussions among the judges I was able to advance the knowledge set of a couple of people that I except we will see as judges for archery A&S in the future.
From: Kevin Smith <kevinsmith5@...>;
To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: What is Period Archery.
Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 1:13:54 PM
Again, not following. I'm notTalking about current Laurels. WeNeed a specific category of A&S for period correct archery gear. They've for jewelry, garb, furniture, etc. why not Archery? That will get us Laurels that are "archer-antiquitarians" for this.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:I have entered and won at baronial level with a crossbow entry. I have at least entered at the Laurel's Prize Tourney, and Kingdom A&S as well. I have made many arrows, bolts, strings, crossbows, done leather work for baronial regalia, and taught classes at a number of events, but I am not a Laurel. There are other archers in the region that are quite skilled as well, but none of us are even remotely close to becoming a Laurel. There is not a single Laurel in the region that could do this task unless we first taught them what they needed to do. We need to do this ourselves. Maybe in your region / kingdom it is an option, but it is not an option here.VincentiAnsteorraOn Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Kevin Smith <kevinsmith5@...> wrote:
I'm entering A&S with my bows and period arrows this fall myself. Maybe more period Bowyers and Fletchers should be as well?
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Kevin Smith <kevinsmith5@...> wrote:
What I'm talking about is having Laurels that ARE archers/Bowyers. Not necessarily current Laurels.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:
maybe the Laurels in your area would be capable of this but not in our region. I do not know of a Laurel within 300 miles that would be qualified but I know of several archers that would be. I do not think that trying to get the Laurels involved is a good idea at all.VincentiOn Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Smith <kevinsmith5@...> wrote:
I'm not saying this is something that could be done overnight. In fact it might require there to be Laurels who were JUST archer-antiquarians and Bowyers. I think there are probably enough serious Bowyers in the SCA for that to work. If we can have all the process in place to get heavy fighters certified, why not this?
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:The problem with having A&S inspect it they are judging it based on Kingdom A&S score sheets. They are not inspecting it to see if it passes certain Archery criteria and they are not inspecting to see if it is safe to shoot and that the Archer knows how to safely shoot it. I would not trust a Laurel to do this.VincentiAnsteorra.On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Kevin Smith <kevinsmith5@...> wrote:
Why not have the period gear "warranted" in advance to shoot in the period rounds? Instead of a marshal having to inspect equipment and documentation at the range day if the shoot the equipment and documentation gets inspected and certified in advance by A&S....
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Jim Pickette <pickette@...> wrote:
Somehow we must reasonably include a thousand years and a hundred regions. One way is for the archer or bowyer to bring research to share at meetings and practices and competitions. None of us will be experts for all of the sources and possibilities. Sharing and inclusion.
James of Odo, Fidelibus
---- "bluecat@..." <bluecat@...> wrote:
> John R's post was excellent. Thanks very much.
> The bottom line is this as far as I am concerned:
> Set a base standard of what is considered period versus modern.
> NOTE---> But you had best do your homework before you start excluding things that really *did* exist in period.
> If you want a level playing field, you create divisions by type of bow- and shoot.
> You leave room for the 'casual' archer to come out and play.
> Everyone has fun.
> INCLUSION is the point- NOT exclusion.
> I insist that folks go out there and do their own research before they start saying what was used or what was
> not. NO guessing.
> It would save all of us a lot of Excedrin.
> Dirk Edward of Frisia