I took the liberty of changing the subject line because the previous thread
involved too many different discussions at the same time, among which some
are IMO irrelevant to this group. I also wish to thank Albert for
encouraging some of his forumites to join, but please remember that we are
not supposed to deal with all possible political or moral problems, or
attempt to reach some kind of "truth" by flooding the group with lengthy
elaborations and full quotation of the previous posts, this is not a message
board where everyone takes his pick but basically a mailing-list where most
active members get each and every message into their private mailboxes.
I hope new members will understand that direct replies to some general (and
at the same time a bit 'personal') considerations that both Albert and
Howard accepted to leave aside were not precisely welcome (and talking about
'correctness' and respect, I would be glad if everyone left religion out of
the debate) but I suppose this group is mature enough to stand pending
questions about the origins of jazz without instantly drawing moral or
political conclusions from any argument.
Having read very little about the question, I still wonder if its New
birthplace is nowadays considered by historians as a "belief" or a proved
fact. There used to be a time when I would have shrugged my shoulders at the
idea that syncopation was already all over the nation before any inspired
soloist raised his instrumental voice above a band arrangement, but this no
longer bothers me any more than knowing if the primary "roots" of any music
are folk inpiration or written compositions. Anyway, why New Orleans more
than St Louis, Baltimore, Chicago or New York?
----- Original Message -----
From: David Brown
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [RedHotJazz] Re: Did Whiteman Steal from Oliver?
' New Orleans was the stomping grounds for all the greatest pianists in the
country. We had coloured, we had white, we had Frenchmen, we had Americans,
we had them from all parts of the world ---'
' Jazz music came from New Orleans and New Orleans was inhabited with maybe
every race on the face of the globe and, of course, plenty from French
origin --- Then we had a lot of Spanish people there.'
Jelly Roll Morton ' Mister Jelly Roll'