Thanks for you explanation and your advice is very helpful to me. Now I know I can look up the commentary first when I encounter some question.
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From: äÍÉÔÒÉÊ áÌÅËÓÅÅ×ÉÞ é×ÁÈÎÅÎËÏ (Dimitry A. Ivakhnenko)
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] about 'accanta'
t> Thanks for your help very much. Wihtout you and other friends in this group,
t> I don't know what to do with my question.
Why don't you look up the commentary?
t> I still have problem with this verse:
t> ' Accanta.m mataputtaamhi, purisaa etadantikaa;
>> As I understand here on the first glance:
>> - accanta.m is translated as an archaic form of first person participle
>> 'gotten past';
t> But PED says that 'accanta' is a noun meaning 'the end', not a participle of
Indeed. Bhikkhu Bodhi's interpretation is unusual.
That's how it is explained in Atthakatha
Accanta.m mataputtaamhi'iti ettha anta.m atiita.m accanta.m,
bhaavana'pu.msakam'eta.m. Ida.m vutta.m hoti- yathaa putta'mara.na.m
anta.m atiita.m hoti, eva.m mata'puttaa aha.m, idaani mama puna
putta'mara.na.m naama natthi.
anta - having an end, ended;
atiita - past, gone by;
therefore 'accanta.m' here means 'complete, gone by, finished';
Thus the first half according to commentary is:
'Gone by is the death of sons'
>> - purisaa etadantikaa = those men (were) final.
t> purisaa and antikaa is respectively nominative and plural of purisa and
t> but etad is singular. Can 'etad' qualify ' purisaa antikaa' ?
t> And Is it proper to translate ' purisaa antikaa ' as 'Men are of end '?
There is an explanation in the PED ('antika' article):
'men are (to me) at the end for that, i.e. men do not exist any more
for me, for the purpose of begetting sons.'
The commentary continues:
Purisaa etadantikaati purisaapi me etadantikaava. Yo me
puttamara.nassa anto, purisaanampi me esevanto, abhabbaa aha.m idaani
antikaa purisaa - final men;
'etad' refers to the previous clause.
Thus the second half is translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi according to
'with this, the search for men has ended'.
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