I agree with some gripes, not with others.
And philosophically nearly line for line the same ;-) Thanks for the succinct expression of pricing principles.
It's a great irony of some sort that one must be wealthy to support a good socialist cause. I tell my friends that if they want to bring the paper and learn how to clean the presses PROPERLY, I'd be happy to help get the message out.
On the other hand, if the "cause" somehow expects, or worse, demands, that I prefer to work for free, or less (providing materials, and time and covering overhead, etc) I somehow become a lot less enthusiastic.
On 9 Feb 2012, at 11:54 AM, Scott Rubel wrote:
I do disagree with the gripes.
You have a skill (the craft so long to learn) and, when you spend your irretrievable time doing it for someone else making something beautiful, those with means and taste are there for you. When anyone sniffles about the cost of anything they want me to do for them, I tell them I could be hiking in the mountains instead of working for them. The ones with the deepest pockets are often those with the shortest arms and the loudest arguments, and my patience is run out with them. I'm through arguing, or trying to "educate." Beauty is beauty and if a customer has means and taste, I'll do something fantastic and she'll appreciate it. If she has means and no taste, I'll give her what she pays for without complaining. If I get someone with little means, and she is absolutely, passionately, from somewhere deep inside, swooning over the desire for something beautiful, I am likely to put more of myself into it for that customer because she is a soul mate of sorts. I don't blame anyone who cannot afford to buy my time. I can't afford to buy my own time, either, so I understand. If I could afford myself I'd be cranking out propaganda for the 99% all day long.
Maybe I've got a bit of the socialist gene, but only a bit.
On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Peter Fraterdeus wrote:
I get gripes all the time from clients ;-)
I think the point that some folks make is that only the wealthy can afford these things, that the objects are too precious and self-involved, etc. I can't disagree entirely, when a single book sells for an annual income or more.
Fortunately, the artists/printers/publishers will keep making what we make anyway.
Some of our work may be Occupy posters - or Proceed and Be Bold posters or Dada street art. Other work may be fine works which will be treasured by future bibliophiles, as we treasure the work of Aldus and Plantin and Tzara and Hamady.
Exquisite letterpress takes time™