Hi Pat. TONIGHT, eh? I'm way over on the coast now, in Humboldt
County, so not really able to do anything in person. As you may have
noticed, I forwarded your posts to several other railroad-related
groups, but no response as of yet. I'll let you know.
A couple random thoughts that have popped into my mind. Do you live
within the City Limits of Colfax, or in the unincorporated "county"
area? Either way, I'd try to meet with or phone your city
councilperson or County Supervisor, whichever is the proper person.
Before tonight's meeting if at all possible. How about your neighbors
on the road? Is there any kind of official or unofficial "neighborhood
group'? Always strength in numbers.
Since I don't have the tape it's impossible to tell, but often during
"public input" sessions of council meetings the council isn't allowed to
discuss issues brought up, but only to "receive" them, perhaps for later
Is there any attorney around that you know, who might be willing to at
least look into it? At least the basic legalities... whether the Town
of Colfax has the "right" to close off this particular road. If they
don't, either because it's outside their area, or illegal to do so, that
would be a BIG help. Or, and it may be the case, perhaps they can, but
there would be a series of steps they MUST take before "seizing" part of
I'm thinking specifically of an Environmental Impact Report (which
phrase in itself might give them the shivers). Closing a road that's
been in existence for years, and would directly impact on a number of
property owners, their property values, and their safety, would seem to
be plenty to REQUIRE that they have an EIR prepared before doing
anything. I'd grab all the neighbors you can and bring them with you
tonight. Even if the project isn't on the agenda, you all would have a
few minutes to address them during the "public comment' period. See
I'd check with the City Clerk or whoever is available - in advance of
the meeting if you can do it this afternoon - and politely demand to see
any/all document/minutes of all meetings, plans, discussions pertaining
to this issue. Unless it involves litigation or a contract bid, I
believe that information would almost certainly fall within the
California Public Records Act (California Government Code, Section
6250-6276)... see http://www.thefirstamendment.org/capra.html
might not be able/obligated to provide it to you immediately, but they
do have to give you access as quickly as they can, or give you a written
reason why they can't/won't.
Again, since you support the concept of the project, your best ally
might be the PSRHS folks if some sort of compromise can be worked out.
People/cities absolutely HATE to get forced into EIRs (can be extremely
costly), and will often do most anything to avoid them.
I'm not attorney, but have heard a few of these phrases along the way.
Keep the group posted, please.
From: "Pat Rylance" <patrylance@...
Date: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:25 am
Subject: Re: <NevadaCoNG> Fw: Colfax RR display
At the time I went to the 7/27 meeting, I was unaware of who was on
what committee or what committee(s) were even involved. What concerns
me is that that are NOT acknowledging the Narrow Gauge Rd at
all....even after I addressed the council on my conerns. I left the
meeting when they went to the next matter which was the
museum/restoration issue. When viewing the tape of that meeting, it
was as though I was never there and they were still discussing the
closing of the crossing. Needless to say.....I am not happy about
this at all and I will be to the meeting tonight. The Narrow Gauge RR
Road is very much appart of what they are attempting to do and it is a
MUST that they include the Narrow Gauge. I am not likely to be ignored!
I am concerned about the way they have addressed this issue in the
committees and just went to the council on 7/27 to make a resolution
to finalize it w/o addressing these issue with public imput. There
could be a violation of the Brown Act here to some extent, but I need
time to do more research on the issue. Time is what I don't have
According to the photos in your files on this group I can see that
crossing clear back to 1883. I would think it would be grandfathered
in or an existing right of way at that spot, again......I need more
time to research this. The fire near us has been very stressing for
the past 3 days. It started on Steven's Trail straight across from
our house.....across I-80. Placer Co records should show some right
of way in the deeds, but I don't have time before the meeting tonight
to research it. Time is definitely NOT on my side right now......but
my voice in this issue WILL BE!
Any HELP will be appreciated........even an additional voice at the
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