--- In LandCafe@yahoogroups.com
, David Reed
> Would have thought that the last thing that the
> present situation needs is for the present
> majority of small under-their-houses landowners
> to claim victim status as consigned to" permanent
> debt slavery" as RL (as always) rashly asserts.
Until they understand that they are also victims,
and are convincingly reassured that they will be
better off with land rent repayment (hence the
proposed exemption for recently purchased land
and universal individual exemption), we won't have
much chance of securing their support.
> Historically, it is altogether probable that, in
> fear of George ,the big landlords surrounded
> themselves with the electoral cannon fodder of
> the over mortgaged masses who could be suborned
> into voting against land taxes and other measures
> that might improve their lot as workers. One
> liberal-radical land tax blogger in the UK (Mark
> Wadsworth) believes, as a fact, that Britain
> entered WW1 to channel the rising tide of class
> antagonism towards landowners .
Both claims seem plausible to me, but especially
> But the landowning class has become more numerous
> and electorally powerful and is not now (as it
> probably was in 1913) vulnerable to a simple
> democratic mandate to vote it out of existence,
IMO that depends on how informed the electorate is,
how angry, and how the question is put to them.
> But the new landowning class is still a problem:
> far from debt slavery, the UK government has
> reduced interest rates and repayments for those
> on variable rate mortgages leaving many "debt
> slaves" hundreds of pounds a month better off.
David should know that this relief from debt is
illusory, as it just increases land value, putting
the next cohort of buyers even deeper in debt.
> There is never again going to be a majority for
> voting the landowners out of existence in the
> Henry George manner.
Never is a long time; but it's true the "Henry
George manner" won't work, as it does not recognize
the necessity of the "recently purchased land" and
universal individual exemptions that are required
for both justice and electoral appeal.
> The JS Mill method stands more of a chance in a
> (post-)modern democratic system because it can be
> passed off as an anti-inflation measure and is
> easily avoided by everybody spending less on
> housing .
The Mill method won't work in the long run, as it
will certainly be abandoned immediately upon the
land-taxing party losing an election, whereon the
base value will simply be ratcheted up again.
-- Roy Langston