Last one on the subject of POWs from this archive. A final account. No. 175 Soprunenko s Top Secret memo of 3rd December 1941. A final accounting of PolishMessage 1 of 53 , Jan 3View Source
Last one on the subject of POWs from this archive. A final account.
No. 175 Soprunenko's Top Secret memo of 3rd December 1941. A final accounting of Polish POWs held in NKVD camps from 1939 to 1941.
1. TOTAL prisoners of war captured by the Red Army and civilian internees transferred from Baltic: 130242
2 Released from camps and sent to the western regions of the USSR and BSSR in 1939: 42400
3. Those who indicated their agreement to move to the territory occupied by the Germans in October and November, 1939: 42492
4. Surrendered to the Germans in 1940-1941 disabled residents of the territory of the former Poland, Germans, persons with German nationality, as well as on requests of the German Embassy in 1940-1941: 562
5. Sent to NKVD in April-May 1940, through the No.1 Special Unit [Katyn]: 15131
6. Sent to points forming the Polish Army to IX-X, 1941: 25115
7. Released from the Polish Army and those refusing to join: 289
8. Held in Aktiubinsk, refused entry to Polish Army with German nationality: 263
9. Held in Aktiubinsk not conscripted to Polish Army for special reasons: 2
10. Died in camps (whole period): 389
11. Escaped from camps (whole period): 
12. Losses during the evacuation of the Lwow camp: 
13. Gone from camps for various reasons (whole period) (released or freed on the orders of the NKVD of the USSR from the camp and arrested.): 
Head of the USSR NKVD Prisoners of War and Internees Affairs
Captain of State Security, Soprunenko
Page 1 (Items 1-10) of the original hand written document is here: http://www.katyn-books.ru/archive/1940_2000/img/large/175.gif
Figures for 11, 12 and 13 not in handwritten original. Added later to typed version.
Best regards, Mark Ostrowski
Dear Mark, Bravo .. what a remarkable find. Maybe the definitive book on Katyn has yet to be written .. Stefan JMessage 53 of 53 , Jan 5View SourceDear Mark,Bravo .. what a remarkable find.Maybe the definitive book on Katyn has yet to be written ..Stefan JFrom: Mark and Oyun <mark_oyun@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:31:33 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Polish prisoners of war. October 1940 - June 1941. Documents Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¹ 125 - Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¹ 157.Dear Stefan,So mystery solved. 448 it is but... there were two separate periods of transportation.The 395 were sent at the time of/after the murders. They were directly spared from execution as they were happening. The first transport was 29 March 1940, a few days after Beria recommended shooting the Poles, but just before the killings actually started.From each camp – transported:Kozielsk – 24Starobielsk – 22Ostaszkov – 7-----------------Total: 53Most of these were transported to Yukhnovsky camp.The full list of names is in a memo [No.17] from Sudoplatov, a Major in Section Five [Counterintelligence] of State Security.Best regards, Mark Ostrowski
--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Jackowski wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Yes, as you mention, the Zadowny book was one of earliest books on Katyn. It was published in 1962, and so had the
> advantage of many eyewitness POW accounts (the publisher claims 150) that were relatively fresh memories. Of course,
> it had the huge disadvantage of not have access to most of the Soviet records, certainly not those that were released
> in 1991, and subsequently.Â Â .. History is indeed a work in progress!
> Stefan J
> From: Dan Ford
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:49:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Polish prisoners of war. October 1940 - June 1941. Documents Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¹ 125 - Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¹ 157.
> Do understand that Mr Zadowny's book was very early, perhaps the first
> to delve into the massacres at any length. History works by accretion
> and by questioning what was assumed. You really can't compare "Death in
> the Forest" with "Katyn--Crime Without Punishment" which represents huge
> advances in what is known.
> There is also a huge difference in what historians know and what society
> at large know. Perhaps because I came to history late (I started out by
> making stuff up--I was a novelist) this always surprises me. "Nazi death
> camps" and indeed even the word "Nazi" as a substitute for "German" is a
> good example. Then there's "Wehrmacht" which almost everyone uses to
> mean "Germany army," when the army was the Heer, one of three military
> forces, the others being the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe. Those are
> just words, but the same is true of events. Well -- take the Polish
> cavalry charging German tanks! Again, every historian (in the field)
> knows it's not true, but you will never get it out of the media and the
> common knowledge.
> Historians joke (rather sourly) that American college students know two
> things about World War Two: that the Americans used an atomic bomb on
> Hiroshima, and that the Japanese in retaliation bombed Pearl Harbor.
> It's only a slight exaggeration. And those college students go on to be
> the newspaper and television writers and editors of the future. -- Dan
> Ford US
> On 1/3/2013 2:27 AM, Stefan Jackowski wrote:
> > I had a closer look at Zadownys' book, "Death in the Forrest", and can
> > see that his discrepency in the numbers of Katyn
> > survivors in 1940 vs. 1941 is clearly acknowledged.