No it only affected Soviet Ukraine In a message dated 07/08/2012 17:20:22 GMT Daylight Time, Eve5J@aol.com writes: Hi Mark, The Holodomore did not affectMessage 1 of 1 , Aug 7, 2012View SourceNo it only affected Soviet UkraineIn a message dated 07/08/2012 17:20:22 GMT Daylight Time, Eve5J@... writes:
The Holodomore did not affect inter-war Eastern Poland as far as I know. This is probably why you have not come across it in your research.
--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Mark <turkiewiczm@...> wrote:
> Thanks Lenarda.
> I am wondering why I havent read alot about the hunger in my research.
> Maybe I have been pre-occupied with identifying all the players in my family first, and didnt absorb.
> My family and yours were at the same stations of life together.
> Mark T.
> From: Lenarda Szymczak <szymczak01@...>
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:48:29 AM
> Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Holodomor - man made famine 1932-1933 - Wielkiego GÅ‚odu na Ukrainie
> My mother was born 1924 and lived through the Holodomor (The Great Hunger) they traded household goods and clothing and my Grandmother Kamila made Herbal Medicines and Grandfather Mikolaj was paid in food for work done kilometres away from home as Geometrze. I found my motherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s family alive because her brother retold the story, which was printed in Newspaper by his grandson and my mother had been telling me this story for years.Â They spoke about the same house and village and events, because they were together during this time but separated in 1942 and had no contact until 2008, and through the article about the Holodomor found each other. This is the article written by my cousin http://polonia.org.ua/news.php?extend.150Ã‚Â from my unclesÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ memory, sorry for article being in Polish language.
> The Holodomor was not caused by Polish people, it was man made by Stalin to control the Ukrainians, but the Polish and other nationality suffered as well, again another article to show this factÃ‚Â http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&ved=0CHwQFjAN&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ukrainesf.com%2Finform%2FHolodomor%2FHolodomor.htm&ei=B98gUMPOIMmsiAfq1oCwAQ&usg=AFQjCNEHMpM6D_x38-3uzNlFCTMY3QaJSA Â part of which is copied below :-
> Eyewitnesses testify:
> Â "... On one side, millions of starving peasants, their bodies often swollen from lack of food; on the other, soldiers, members of the GPU carrying out the instructions of the dictatorship of the proletariat. They had gone over the country like a swarm of locusts and taken away everything edible; they had shot or exiled thousands of peasants, sometimes whole villages; they had reduced some of the most fertile land in the world to a melancholy desert." Â
> Malcolm Muggeridge - British foreign correspondent - Â May 1933
> " I saw ravages of the famine of 1932-1933 in Ukraine - hordes of families in rags begging at the railway stations, the women lifting up to the compartment windows their starving brats, which, with drumstick limbs, big cadaverous heads and puffed bellies, looked like embryos out of alcohol bottles." Â
> Arthur Koestler, The God That Failed p. 68
> "In 1932 and 1933 Kyiv seemed like a paradise to nearly villagers who had been stripped of all they had by the Soviet government. Â A no wonder: Â some villages were dying out completely, except for those who still had the courage and strength to flee. Â There were cases where mothers had gone mad and killed a child to feed the rest of the family. Â So, thousands of villagers flocked to the city of Kyiv. Â Many of the weak ones sat or lay down by buildings or fences, most never to get up again. Â Trucks driven by policemen or Communist Youth League members, mobilized for that purpose, went around picking up bodies or carrying those still alive somewhere outside the city limits. Â It was especially terrible to see mothers whose faces had turned black from hunger with children who no
> longer cry, but only squeal, moving their lips in an attempt to find sustenance where there was none. Â Â People sought salvation and found death. Â I saw these things as Â I walked to work through the Haymarket on Pidvil'na Street near the Golden Gates and Volodymyr Street."
> Varvara Dibert - Genocide Survivor - from Congressional testimony presented before the United States Ukraine Famine Commission in Washington, DC, October 8, 1986.
> Ã¢â‚¬Å"About 20 miles south of Kyiv I came upon a village that was practically extinct by starvation. Â Â Â There had been 15 houses in this village and a population of 40-odd persons. Every dog and cat had been eaten. Â The horses and oxen had all been appropriated by the Soviets to stock the collective farms. Â In one hut they were cooking a mess that defied analysis. Â There were bones, pig-weed, skin and what looked like a boot top in this pot. Â The way the remaining half dozen inhabitants eagerly watched this slimy mess showed the state of their hunger. Â One boy of about 15 years of age, whose face and arms and legs were simply tightly drawn skin over bones, had a stomach that was swollen to twice its normal size. Â He was an orphan; his father had died of starvation a month before and he showed me the body. Â The boy had covered the body with straw, there being no shovels in the village since the last raid of the Soviet secret police. Â He
> stated his mother had gone away one day searching for food and had not returned. Â This boy wanted to die Ã¢â‚¬â€œ he suffered intensely with his swollen stomach and was the only one of the group who showed no interest in the pot that was being prepared.
> Thomas Walker - American journalist who traveled in Ukraine during the Genocide of 1932-1933
> Â Petro Luchko, Zapruddja, Kyiv region (born in 1924): Ã¢â‚¬Å"In 1932-33 there were special brigades Ã¢â‚¬â€œ Ã¢â‚¬Å"red fellingsÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Ã¢â‚¬â€œ that took away the grainÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ People were severely beaten while questioned, where they keep the grainÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ That brigades took away all the cattle as wellÃ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½
> Â Andrij Ganchenko, Sophiyivka, Chernigiv region (born in 1915): Ã¢â‚¬Å"More than one third of inhabitants of our village died. The dead were laying in the houses and along the streets, and no one buried them. From time to time, the cadavers were taken to the edge of the village and piled in a pit. Once, I saw them doing it. Some of the people that were thrown to the pit seemed to be still aliveÃ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½
> Â Ljubov Kurinna, Cherkassy region (born in 1919): Ã¢â‚¬Å"They took the dead to the territory of the collective farm ant threw them into the pit. Some of them were still stirring. Our neighbors said that behind the village, where they usually buried the dead bodies, they saw the land movingÃ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½
> And another article Deleting the Holodomor: Ukraine Unmakes Itself | World Affairs ...www.worldaffairsjournal.org/.../deleting-holodomor-ukraine-unmak...
> Stalin's forced famine of 1932Ã¢â‚¬â€œ33, which killed four million people, has brought Ukraine'scomplicated relationship with Russia into sharp focus.
> also InfoUkes: Ukrainian History -- The Artificial Famine/Genocide ...
> 8 Sep 1997 Ã¢â‚¬â€œ On November 28th 2006, the Verkhovna Rada (Parliament of Ukraine) had passed a Law defining the Holodomoras a deliberate Act of Genocide..
> And Wiki version
> Holodomor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> The Holodomor(Ukrainian: Ãâ€œÃÂ¾ÃÂ»ÃÂ¾ÃÂ´ÃÂ¾ÃÂ¼ÃÂ¾Ã`â‚¬, 'ÃÅ"ÃÂ¾Ã`â‚¬ÃÂ¸Ã`â€šÃÂ¸ ÃÂ³ÃÂ¾ÃÂ»ÃÂ¾ÃÂ´ÃÂ¾ÃÂ¼', literal translation Killing by hunger) was a man-made famine in the Ukrainian SSR between 1932 ...
> Denial of the Holodomor - Causes of the Holodomor - Holodomor genocide question
> Lenarda, Australia