Hello Janusz, Sorry, but I do not believe I knew Andrzej, nor your grandmother Ruta. However, I am attaching a photo of Andrzej from Ksiega Pamiatkowa JSK,Message 1 of 37 , Dec 14 9:15 AMView SourceHello Janusz,Sorry, but I do not believe I knew Andrzej, nor your grandmother Ruta. However, I am attaching a photo of Andrzej from Ksiega Pamiatkowa JSK, page 63.JedrzejFrom: JanZ <janz@...>
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ï»¿Panowie Jedrzej, Ed and Antoni,Do you by any chance remember my father Andrzej Zajaczkowski, who was in the JSK IV Kompania.Maybe you also remember my grandmother Ruta Zajaczkowska, who was a teacher firstly in the JSK and from 1943 in the JS Powszechna?JanuszLondon, UK----- Original Message -----From: Andrew SyskaSent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:46 AMSubject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Caspian crossing April 1942 [1 Attachment]Hello John,Thank you for your comments. What a nice feeling to know that my story was read with interest.We were deported from Lwow in 1940 as a family, left Siberia as a family and, yes, managed to get out from USSR together with minor separations.Regarding the ship Krasnyi Profintern I can only say that within a few months of arriving in Palestine I had entered the ship's name in my 1942 solder's diary, copy attached, clearly believing that that was the correct name. None of may family, all deceased now, ever questioned that name. Of course, I was only 14 then, and I have no proof, other than my recollection.When I have shared my Recollections with anyone I have always tried to preface my writing with a comment that this is a story of events as I best recall them. I have a short diary written by my late sister. Her recollections differ makedly with mine. In the end what you believe is what counts.With best wishes, szczesliwych Swiat i Wesolego Nowego RokuJedrzej SyskaFrom: John Halucha <john.halucha@...>
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What a wonderful memoire, Andrew! Do I understand correctly that you yourself made this crossing, etc.? Incredible!I especially enjoyed the scene of "guess who" played unknowingly with Mother. Again, was that you? I bet she was at least as surprised and embarrassed - but what a story of a lifetime! It was a very human moment in this sad, profound history, and you are very generous to include it.BTW, not to detract from this document in the slightest, but there may be some question about the name of the ship "Krasnyji Profintern" (also Krasnyj Profintern, Krasnii Profintern, later renamed Krasnyi Krym as Anne Kaczanowski explained last year). I do not have any personal knowledge about this, of course, but while looking for photos of Krasnyji Profintern / Krasnyi Krym, I found references to it being on the Black Sea but never on the Caspian.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_cruiser_Krasnyi_KrymA few other notes on the topic that may be of interest:Since this vessel was variously described as a cargo ship, dreadnought and cruiser, it is unlikely to ever have been on the land-locked Caspian Sea. However, there appears to be a ship named just Profintern on the Caspian.- "11 large tankers for Caspian Sea (of "Lenin" type) were produced in 1930-1936by "Krasnoe Sormovo" shipyard (six for oil transportation and five - forgasoline).Specifications: 12600 t (deadweight 8500 t); 132,6 x 16,86 m; 2 x 1250 hpdiesel; 11,6 knots; 2800 miles range; 41 men crew."Lenin", equipped with AA guns, transported petrol and oil for Stalingrad Frontunder bombs of German aviation. It was awarded with Red Banner after end ofStalingrad battle.The another 10 tankers of the same type were used also quite widely during theStalingrad battle and after. Also some of them participated in landing operationof Soviet troops into Iranian territory in 1941, transported soldiers andammunition.They had names "Profintern", "Tsurupa", "Agamali-ogly", "VKP(b)", "Komintern","Sumgait", "Zhdanov", "Geroi Mekhti", "Bolshevik Ahundov", "Azerbaijan"....Also I found short info about Caspian tanker "Kulibekov" (unknown for me type, deadweight 1754 t, so it was small tanker)"- http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=723265- "Krymov, Iurii Solomonovich (pseudonym of I. S. Beklemishev) ... in 1936 he sailed on the tanker Profintern in the Caspian Sea." - http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Iurii+Solomonovich+KrymovI haven't checked the links recently and apologize if they don't all work any more. The bottom line is, is it possible the ship was named Profintern rather than Krasnii Profintern?As I say, this is only a minor detail and does not detract from your document in the slightest. I am interested only because my late father may have been on this same ship at the same time.Another very human moment in your story is, "In Qastina, being the youngest "solder" in the camp (just 14), I was asked (told) to read some poems from the theater stage during May 3 celebrations to a large military audience." It appears that the occasion was the official formation of the 3rd Carpathian Rifle Division - no wonder there was a large military audience! It was a very prestigious ceremony to be involved in, particularly for someone so young.Thank you for shedding more light on this period - and for sharing the lighter side, too.John HaluchaSault Ste Marie, CanadaFrom: Andrew Syska <andrew.syska@...>
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Below is yet another recollection of our "exodus" from USSR via Krasnovodsk to Palestine.From Uzbekistan to Palestine, and we all make it!1942: It is Time to Go! Late in the evening on 23rd of March 1942, Tata arrives in a horse driven cart to the house in Fergana, which we have occupied for several months and tells us: "it's time to go". The house is on the outskirts of Fergana, about 20 minute walk from the silk factory, where we all have worked. We gather our belongings and leave quietly, after dark. We must not attract any attention from the police, or factory security. We head for the railroad junction of Gorchakovo, which is close to the Polish Army base camp and get dropped off there. We sleep that night in the open air. The next day, on 24th of March, we board an army transport train bound for Krasnovodsk on the Caspian Sea. We are worried about RafaÃ…â€š. How shall we get him past the border guards at Krasnovodsk? He has no papers, but Tata has coached him how to respond to anticipated questions: he was born in Zgierz, was separated from his parents, is now traveling in our care, etc. On the way, we are given large size army overcoats to hide our civilian clothing, and our youthful appearance. No civilians are allowed on that train. Tata keeps it very quiet.We pass Kokund, then Samarkand without stopping. All we can see around is a vast expanse of steppes (savannas). Little hopping animals (like miniature kangaroos) are everywhere. On the 26th, my 14th birthday, our train passes Bukhara, and then goes through Mary and Ashkhabad at night. We arrive in Krasnovodsk on the 27th of March, late at night. Our concern for RafaÃ…â€š grows, as we get near the Krasnovodsk harbor. We are told to don our large army coats and act like solders. Russian sentries are everywhere. They look at everyone. It is dark, and we get through the guard checks, and board the ship "Krasnyi Profintern", bound for Pahlevi, Persia. The ship is crowded. We sleep on the decks. I have no idea where Mama, Tata, Malina, or RafaÃ…â€š are. We all have become separated. We sail through the Caspian Sea, and arrive in Pahlevi on the 31st March 1942. Good-bye USSR!As the ship docks in Pahlevi, I am struck by the traffic in the streets. Huge colorful trucks are everywhere. Cars and trucks are honking, their exhaust pipes are spewing smoke, and the streets are crowded with people. What a different world.We disembark in Pahlevi, but I don't see RafaÃ…â€š anymore. We must be assigned to different transports. I go in one truck, while, apparently, RafaÃ…â€š had to go by another. The wharf is busy with trucks, and vendors sell food everywhere. We are dropped off on a beach, where we spend several days, sleeping on the sand, eating peanuts and margarine. Rafal shows up on the beach one day. He tells us that he has been assigned to go with another group of young people to Teheran, Persia. We will meet up later. I am staying with Tata's transport. I think Malina has gone with Mama.We leave Pahlevi on, or about, 6 April 1942. A great number of civilian Persian trucks are assembled to collect us and transport us south. The Persian drivers drive like madmen. The road winds through high Elbus Mountains, and always, it seems, on the very edge of deep ravines. Below, hundreds of feet down, we see trucks like ours, smashed to pieces. We wonder what has happened to the occupants, people like us. We look with horror how close to the edge of the road we constantly appear to be driving. By nightfall we arrive in Qazvin, and are bivouacked in a palace belonging to the Shah of Persia. We sleep on the floor of a long palace corridor.The next day, 7 April, Indian military drivers take over from the Persians. The trucks are smaller. We drive through a flat desert terrain, and the drivers are good. The first night we stop in Hamadan, and sleep in the open. On 9th of April, we arrive at Kermanshah. West from the campsite, we see tall mountains in the distance. The jackals are howling all around us! It is a desert. The tents are pitched on the sand. While standing near the trucks and absorbing the surrounding image, I feel hands cupping my eyes. Who's the joker behind me? I go for his crotch! Then hear a scream. It's Mama ! Her transport also stopped for the night in Kermanshah; she was able to locate me and decided to surprise me. I am embarrassed.On April 11th we stop in Bakuba for the night. On the 12th of April we quickly drive through Baghdad, and stop for the night in Habbaniyah, just south of Bagdad. We swim in the Habbaniyah lake that evening. The desert is very flat; there are no roads, just desert tracks. After two more days, sleeping under the sky, we arrive on the 15th of April in Mafrak, Trans Jordan. On 16th of April 1942 we cross the narrow Allenby Bridge into Palestine, my "home" for the next five years.We reach Gedera transit camp that afternoon. The following day we move to Qastina, a more permanent camp. In Qastina, being the youngest "solder" in the camp (just 14), I was asked (told) to read some poems from the theater stage during May 3 celebrations to a large military audience.pt Syska in IsdutWe move to Isdut on the Sea on 7 May. I am there till 29th June 1942 (see photo). I am then transferred, despite my vocal protests, to a school camp, JSK (Junacka SzkoÃ…â€ša KadetÃƒÂ³w), in Bashit. I leave Bashit in July and re-join Tata's Army unit in nearby camp Beit Jirjia. I still find it hard to make it on my own! However, that reprieve ends on 23rd September when I am ordered and dispatched back to Bashit. On 3rd Oct I formally join the 4th Cadet Company in Bashit. The entire School is subsequently moved to a more permanent camp in Qastina on 18th October, 1942, and finally to a more developed and suitably equipped Camp Barbara on 30th July in 1943.
Antony, Stefan and Eve prompted by my own curiosity to find other family members who were also too young to fight at Monthe Cassino but earnest Junacy and notMessage 37 of 37 , Jan 12, 2012View SourceAntony, Stefan and Eve prompted by my own curiosity to find other family members who were also too young to fight at Monthe Cassino but earnest Junacy and not on Stefan list I found out initially there were just 1200 cadets/Junacy but the numbers quickly rose past 5000 in Szkoly Junakow and Oboz Junaczek/female Junaki.
History and explanations (could not find an English satisfactory explantion);
Loads of pictures and locations of schools; Also in Polish but surely could be translated to English by those who are interested.
Would love to see all of those surnames listed on our KS available to us.
Pozdrawiam milutko Krystyna Styrna, Toronto
--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "antoni530" <ASKAZIMIERSKI@...> wrote:
> the list of 1275 persons is KADECI only. Junackie szkoly Mechaniczne, Lotnicze and Mlodsze Ochotniczki and others are not included. This list is as Stefan sent on in the attachment 1 to his last mail.
> It does not include any KADETY who were at varioud Brigade and Divisional heaquarters and were training to be officers by practical means; in other words 'in the field', so to speak, and were called 'kadet'.There was a school in Rome, I believe.
> PS Who are you looking for? and I'll have a look.
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "eve5j" <Eve5J@> wrote:
> > Hi Antoni,
> > Do these books contain Kadets only? Remember a few years ago we wrote privately on this subject? If these books also contain the junaki, all are not listed.
> > Regards,
> > Eve
> > --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "antoni530" <ASKAZIMIERSKI@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Stefan,
> > >
> > > as you mentioned and posted a list of Kadets in the two books. There is a third book as well with more names of Kadets from before the war of 1939.
> > > All members were invited to add their 'zyciorysy' to be entered into the Annex and all was published as 'KSIEGA PAMIECI KADETOW II RZECZYPOSPOLITEJ as an Aneks in Warsaw in 2006 at ISBN 978-83-7399-212-2. I assume it is available t purchase.
> > > This book has all the names of all kadets in the Middle East just as your list of 1942/3. It is in hard cover.
> > > antoni530