I decline to join some discussions because they have largely descended to ad hominem attacks on individuals rather than addressing arguments, and I think Bozena speaks for many here in substance and tone.
Perhaps she represents the views of the group's "silent majority", the people whose names you always see when it comes to helping someone else but never see when it comes to personal, political or ethnic diatribes.
Sault Ste. Marie, Canada
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From: tinijoroga <tinijoroga@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 12:24:25 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Group Guidelines and Moderators' Prerogatives
I can't believe the posts I'm reading � those who wish us ill must be
in seventh heaven.. So let us not add to their glee by attributing
character flaws explicitly to our Polish heritage - ones which are
entrenched into people of all races and creeds.
Then too, it's amazing that when a derogatory and debasing epitaph is
flung at the Group or when the honor of the Polish people is
besmirched, the silence in our Group is deafening. Yet, there's an
outcry when we're told to drop a topic by our Moderator. Go figure.
Though I may be in the minority, I fully support Elzunia in her
statement that we have chosen to be members of the K-S moderated
group and have agreed to abide by the guidelines which we accepted
upon joining. Those who choose not to conform but prefer a free-for-
all, can always, as she says, find a group to their liking elsewhere
on the internet.. This is not a matter of "like it or lump it", but a
matter of each of us sticking to an agreement. Stefan recently
pointed out that "�we are not a democratic entity with voting
members, but more like a moderated discussion group with voluntary
participation under a set of specified objectives and values, which
need to be constantly examined and reinforced through dialogue�."
The time has come to do that examining.
Which brings up another point. I fully support Eve in her proposal
to revamp those guidelines because those in the Interim Report are
not specific enough. If anything, these current exchanges have shown
a need to set perimeters on discussions otherwise chaos ensues.
Obviously, not every topic a member wants to post is of interest to
other members and here on K-S we are limited to the topics implied by
the name � which are of interest to all of us. Other topics that
members wish be included, should be appealed directly to the
Moderators who have that discretion inasmuch as they are the founders
of this Group. But until those guidelines by which we are governed
are changed, we are committed to them and must respect the Moderator
who enforces them whether we agree or not.
However, some of these rules/guidelines need clarification. For
instance, the statement that a "Moderator reserves the right to warn,
suspend or remove members who are unable to respect these values" is
rather ambiguous and doesn't guarantee equal treatment. I, as a
couple of others who posted, would like to know more of the rules for
disciplinary action that are in place. For instance, what
circumstances would warrant the suspension or removal of a member?
That, to my way of thinking, should be in black and white.
And now, I'm going to appropriate a statement Tilford posted which I
think is great and find extremely useful and that is: "I'm finished
with all of this on the list, and I hope no one will post to me on
the list about these subjects, and if they do I will not respond on
the list"! It probably works well for you, but I doubt if I will be
BOZENA � Florida, USA
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