In most lies some element of truth needs to be stated or interwoven to make people believe the lies. By gathering and analyzing these lies we can find theMessage 1 of 4 , Feb 9, 2006View Source
In most lies some element of truth needs to be stated or interwoven to make people believe the lies. By gathering and analyzing these lies we can find the threads of truth. Piecing together these small threads we can come close to the truth that we all long for.
Based on past Russian and Stalin’s history it is easy to come to the conclusion that over 2 million Polish people were deported not 500,000 or even 1.7 million.
In the book “ The Keys Of This Blood written by Malachi Martin on page # 234 Stalin states to Churchill coolly that the problem of private ownership had been solved. “by the use of cattle cars” Four million small landowners were packed into those cattle cars, which transported them to Siberian detention camps and quick, merciless execution.
The writing continues with the below paragraph.
Stalin did mention a word to Churchill the planned liquidation of 15 million Ukrainians. Nor did he bring up his fixed triple policy of terror: systematically inducing famine, the use of poison gas and the creation of vast network of death camps in Siberia , to which those who survived were deported. Conservative estimates put the total number of Stalin’s victims at 25-35 million. (I have read higher estimates as high as 50-60 million).
If you take all of the above as historical fact then all you need to do is count how many farmer, independent business people and people of culture (teachers, religious, doctors, artists,) even local police and ex military people that were in Poland before the war and you can then deduce the number that Stalin would have deported to fully control Poland. Stalin and the Russian military deported the entire family not just the male member of the family. So for ever male member deported you need to add his entire family to come up with some accurate numbers.
It surly would not have been 500,000 or any number less the 2 million based on the population, the independent business structure and the economy of Poland before the war. If you assume that there were 4 members to an average family and divide 4 into 500,000 you would get 125,000 farmers, independent business men, teachers, religious, doctors, artists, local police and ex military people in Poland before the war. That number I am sure does not come close to the truth. So the 500,000 is also not true it must be much higher.
These conclusions are taken from Stalin’s own words about his own deeds. I have read book after book referring to similar numbers regarding what he had done to his own and others. I must assume that he would not be more sympathetic to countries he was destroying and trying to control these countries from vast distances.
If in science and math you can arrive at concrete answers by deduction then we can in high certainty conclude that the Russian military and Stalin deported more then 1.7 million Polish people, enslaved the rest and stole years of their assets.
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Walter Orlowski
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: How Information Was Used as a Weapon in Poland
--- Hello Lucyna:
We all can agree with the thrust of this article and it is relevant
to our discussion of deportations. Mendacity (propaganda) was one of
the foundations of Soviet Society and it was of equal importance to
But, I like to describe Soviet propaganda differently. I strongly
believe that the Soviets never told the truth, but instead threw out
several versions of an incident, all of them fabrications, and
allowed their apologists to pick and choose the one they like best.
As a result, their subjects had difficulty telling truth from fact
and would accept many lies as facts, since normal people could not
comprehend that everything told them was a lie. Therefore, they would
pick certain lies and call them facts. Even if on occasion most of
the story was correct it would be slanted to make a political point
and attack the US . For example, when the Communist press reported on
the high crime wave in the US in the 1970s and 1980s, which was real,
they would always couple it with stories of dire poverty and
political repression which were false. As a result probably most
Poles did not believe the entire story, even though the part about
crime was true. What stories did they believe? It probably varied
from individual to individual. I was rather surprised when I spoke
with one of my cousins, who lives in Opole , that he actually believed
the propaganda line that American workers were not allowed to
unionize. That was a very old lie. Maybe with time people become less
critical of the most obvious falsehoods.
In case of deportations of Polish citizens in 1939-1947, we will
never learn the truth from Soviet or Polish UB documents since they
are probably all false, meaning they are either outright falsehoods
or selected facts with most documents and facts omitted (lying by
omission and/or fabrication of facts). Why so many historians are
wasting so much time pouring over these documents? The most that they
accomplish is disseminate Soviet propaganda meant to hide the facts
in the first place. Like Nazi propaganda, it seems to have a life of
In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com , "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lartymiuk@...>
> How Information Was Used as a Weapon in Poland
> By Ella Kietlinska
> Epoch Times New York Staff Feb 06, 2006
> Former Polish President and Nobel Prize winner Lech Walesa is seen
during a Solidarity Trade Union congress in Gdansk. The former leader
of Solidarity, Lech Walesa, urged issidents in countries under
dictatorship to use the communist bloc's first free trade union as a
model for change. (Ludmilla Mitrega/AFP/Getty) (edited by WO)>
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