Hi Zbyszek and Group - Ukraine was also a state or country for a very short time after World War I; I don t know whether or not Odessa was included in theseMessage 1 of 127 , Oct 28, 2004View SourceHi Zbyszek and Group -Ukraine was also a state or country for a very short time after World War I; I don't know whether or not Odessa was included in these boundaries of Ukraine at that time. But you are correct, other than this, Ukraine was not a country until after USSR was dissolved.I don't have time to check right now, but I think that Odessa was part of the Crimea? People will recall the Crimean war. I read that the most famous battle was recreated there by the British last weekend or recently in the paper. A famous poem, "The Fall of the Light Brigade" was written about this battle.Eve JankowiczUSA
Well I'm not sure that the "Ukrainian State" ever had this territory to
loose it. Hope someone can correct me here if I'm wrong, but Ukraine as a
state only came into existence during/after WWII.
I've looked at a lot of old maps I have and I don't see the name "Ukraine"
on any of them pre WWII. Prior to that, The area east of Poland was called
USSR, Grand Dutchy of Lithuania, Kiovie NSE,...etc..
Jame's Mitchner's book , Poland shows a map of the eastern Europe how it
looked in prior to WWII, and there is no Ukraine on it. To the east of
Poland is Soviet Union, south is Chechoslovakia, east Germany.
The enclosed map shows the "Fiefs of the Kingdom of Poland", I'm still
reading the book to figure out what years this map was valid from-to.
Odessa is not written on the map, but it would be just west along the Black
sea from Oczakow and clearly within the borders of the Polish Kingdom.
From: mirzabie@... [mailto:mirzabie@...]
Sent: October 26, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Odessa map
Could you say when the Ukrainian State lost the territory?
Basia, Good luck with your search! You can find details of Jozef, born 1915, father Jozef here: http://www.indeks.karta.org.pl/pl/szczegoly.jsp?id=110563 ThisMessage 127 of 127 , Apr 3, 2012View SourceBasia,Good luck with your search!You can find details of Jozef, born 1915, father Jozef here:This refers you to the Polish Army Central Archive, CAW, who will have details of the first three entries. I'd email them with full details of your father, these references and ask for copies of any papers they have. They are very good at responding, but it does take some months. Don't forget to provide them with a postal address. Whilst you're at it why not ask for your grandfathers records?email CAW at: caw@...JanuszUK----- Original Message -----From: BasiaSent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:51 PMSubject: [Kresy-Siberia (est.2001)] IntroductionMy name is Basia Zielinska, I live in Sydney and have very recently become aware of the group.I am seeking information about my father Jozef Zielinski who was interned in Siberia before 1942.I only know from stories that he was in Siberia and I want to find out as much information as I can.My father died when I was 10 years old so my information about him is scant though I do have his soldier's book from England, and there is a bit of information there about him, post 1942I also have a few photos, one is particularly intriguing, a group of soldiers which may be interesting to other members.I look forward to setting this search in motion and look forward to instructions from members, which may help me.Kind regardsBasia Zielinska--