Dear All, A suggestion that has recently come up is to change the title Catholicose of the East to Patriarch of the East, or Patriarch of India and theMessage 1 of 824 , Mar 3, 2005View SourceDear All,
A suggestion that has recently come up is to change
the title "Catholicose of the East" to "Patriarch of the East,"
or "Patriarch of India and the East." This, in my opinion would be a
good change. One of the main reasons is that there are currently
two "Catholicoses of the East" in India. The changing of the title
would solve the problem of outside churches not knowing who the
primate of the Indian Orthodox Church is. This would also help in
illustrating the fact that our church is not under the jurisdiction
of any foreign patriarch. The word "Catholicose" may leave doubt that
the primate who holds that title may be under the authority of some
other primate(for example, the Jacobite Catholicose is under the
authority of Antioch). A "Catholicose" may be under a Patriarch, but
haven't heard of a "Patriarch" being under another Patriarch. Would
this be a resonable change?
With Love and Prayers,
St.Mary's Church Tampa
Dear All, we were reading several messages on discussing the catholicate and patriarchate and i am sure that those arguments will never converge and touch toMessage 824 of 824 , Apr 23, 2005View SourceDear All,
we were reading several messages on discussing the
catholicate and patriarchate and i am sure that those
arguments will never converge and touch to any
conclusions as they are kept parallel today. the
re-establishment of the catholicate of the 3rd century
was done in malankara in 1912 for which there were
objections within the church. however it was made
right in 1964. still the confusion prevails.
in one of my old postings i just mentioned about the
establishment of a bishopate in Parumala seminary
which is the spiritual power for all our church
leaders, parishes all over the world and an undisputed
pilgrimage for all irrespective of cast, creed and
St.Greegorios of Parumala himself went to Jeruselam
and accepted the title of Jerusalem Patriarch in
silence. However; never agreed to the request of HH
Moran Peter III the Patriarch of Antioch to shift the
saint's stay to Jerusalem. saint's staying back at
Parumala resulted in the 2nd Jerusalem for us.
it is a common sight in Parumala that a bishop is
alway is visiting the sacred shrine.
as suggested in my earlier postings can we position a
bishop in that vacant seminary and re -establish the
title 'Jerusalem Patriarch' under the St Thomas
this would fulfil the desire of the saint to activate
the seminary as the spiritual centre for the church.
this should be the only place where no Christian shall
be denied of any sacraments because of the trivial
Dr.GeorgeK John, Sharjah.