Wow, thanks for the insight. Recycled sermon beginnings. Well, you are correct, he has a new audience to hoop & holler for him! I have a soft heart for theMessage 1 of 38 , May 16View Source
Wow, thanks for the insight. Recycled sermon beginnings. Well, you are correct, he has a new audience to hoop & holler for him!
I have a soft heart for the elderly. If they wouldn't go off and die on me, I would like to be a caregiver.
Having said that, I realize just because Wayman looks old and feeble on the outside, he has not changed or softened up on the inside. It is his true nature.
Just like a 90 old man lusting after some 20 year old because the nature is still there. And if he is a rich 90 year old man, someone like Anna Nicole Smith can come along and claim to love him and marry him. YUCK.
Good points about Hitler and Stalin. Sitting around having a grand old relaxing time, and in Hitler's case, not giving a shit about the poor Jews that he annihilated.
Peace - Nancy
--- In Escape_from_the_Fellowship@yahoogroups.com, kenhaining777 wrote:
> Nancy said:
> [The above is about a minute long. HE looks so feeble, I bet he can't
> rant & rave like he did in the past. ]
> I had to laugh as he began his "sermon." He made reference to a man who
> went into Las Vegas and did a double or nothing bet. Wayman said that
> it was half a million dollars that was bet, in cash, that the man
> brought in a brief case. He said this was "a few years back." This
> same illustration was used in the fellowship right after it happened,
> not a few years ago, but back in 1980. It wasn't half a million that
> was bet, but a quarter of a million. The man won the bet on one toss of
> the dice and walked out with half a million dollars. I was pastoring a
> Foursquare church in Deming, New Mexico at the time, and Harold Warner
> used this illustration in one of his sermons in the November 1980 Tucson
> This stuff is recycled over the years. After all, the audience they are
> preaching to now never heard this and other illustrations, and it
> happened before some of them were born, or when they were little kids.
> I could just imagine how the sermon went. Wayman even says that he
> doesn't know if the story is true, (it did actually happen), but that it
> was a good point to start his sermon on.
> Could he still rant and rave? Probably to a certain degree. He still
> seems quite active in purging his fellowship of any preacher who he has
> gotten in his sights. I have to note, as he recently went after Anthony
> Tilli, that he uses men to help him destroy their fellow pastors and
> leaders and then turns around some years later and destroys the ones he
> used to destroy the previous targets. From what I recall, Tilli was one
> who was used to help dethrone Mike Mastin.
> I am sure, as people watch this video, that they might think, "What a
> nice old man." I remember seeing films of Adolf Hitler and Joseph
> Stalin, when they were relaxing and hanging out with associates, and
> thinking that if I didn't know history I would probably think they were
> pretty nice guys. It's the same with Wayman. I know the history.
joaquin said: [Barry Parker was the first preacher I really listened to. I did respect him as a person, just never really agreed with his dogmatic fellowshipMessage 38 of 38 , Jul 17View Sourcejoaquin said:
[Barry Parker was the first
preacher I really listened to. I did respect him as a person, just never really
agreed with his dogmatic fellowship based teachings. There was even a lot of
corruption I witnessed from him, by virtue of being in the fellowship so long.]
There are a lot of people in the fellowship who are basically good people and who have been almost hypnotized into thinking that the Wayman Way is the good and the right way. Most of the people in the fellowship, who are good, decent people, go through some strange stages of transformation. Constant exposure to the fellowship deadens the parts of the mind that represent higher reasoning. More and more, you are conditioned to think along the lines of fellowship teachings, and to dismiss everything that contradicts or challenges those teachings.
However, as you get older, and natural maturity sets in, it gets more difficult to go along with the nonsense. For example, when the movie rules were introduced, the hypocrisy and insanity of these "higher standards" came bearing down on my mind. I had pastors, and even leaders, telling me of the sanctioned loopholes, such as using the church equipment in their homes to watch movies, or renting motel rooms to watch movies, and even having TVs with VCRs hidden in their houses. When I objected to this nonsense, I was given "explanations" of how this was "exampleship" at work. It got so stupid that I just rejected it all. That put me on a collision course with the leadership and led to my getting out of the fellowship.
What happens is that the illusion that these men are spiritual supermen is broken. There's no special equipping from God that allows them to see the wisdom of fellowship teachings beyond what your poor carnal mind can see. The media rules are stupid, the leadership explanations as to why these rules are essential and inspired are also stupid, and these men who propagate these teachings are being stupid. You need a filter on your computer to stop you from watching pornography, oh man of God? Really? What happened to the anointing of the Holy Spirit? Once you start seeing how retarded these "doctrines" really are, you realize that this guy who is telling you that he is God's man for your life is full of it. Computer child controls for Wayman's Mighty Men. Sounds about right.
One fellowship leader, who left in 1990, told me in 1994 that he came to realize that the fellowship reinforced the most negative qualities of his personality. That's why a lot of basically good, decent people can be transformed into nasty fellowship drones. Intelligent people can be reduced to low level, non thinkers, who simply spout fellowship religious nonsense. Friendly, sociable people are turned into isolated weirdos who become socially retarded. And for as long as possible, the fellowship pastors and leaders keep these people under the illusion that they are much better people because they have embraced all these primitive religious qualities. That's why when you are in the fellowship it is almost impossible to really socialize and relate to anyone who is not part of that group. Only when you get out do you realize what you had become.
I had to sadly laugh at myself. How could I have been so stupid? It's a process. It's called "discipleship." It has nothing to do with "knowing Jesus" or "the will of God." It was just a process by which you were turned into a human resource for Wayman's kingdom for as long as they could convince you that you were part of the greatest move of God in the Earth today. It is unfortunate that a lot of good people, a lot of intelligent people, and a lot of compassionate, well intentioned people have been snared by something like Wayman's World. It would be nice to see a mass awakening.