Klemp likens himself as "Big Harry" to that of mythical hero "Big
The following is a quote from Peter Anton's notes of Harold Klemp's
Saturday evening talk on October 29, 2005 at the Eckankar World Wide
HK: "I've been called a lot of things in my time. Some are good
things and others are better things."
Me: Is "dumb ass" one of the good ones or one of the better ones?
HK: "Dora (not her real name so she can't be located) went swing
dancing and found herself dancing with Bernie."
Me: Why add, "so she can't be located." Is "Bernie" a pseudonym too,
or is it okay to locate him?
HK: "Where do you live? In Chanhassen. Where in Chanhassen and she
gave the cross streets. Isn't that where the Eck... Temple, she
said. I live right across from there and work at Eckankar. Do you
get to see Big Harry very often? (lots of laughter). Dora found that
very funny. You mean Harold Klemp. I don't see him a lot, but I am
always aware of him and his inner guidance. I'm aware of his
Me: Actually, dream and waking awareness are constructs of what one
wants to believe. Intuition is non-religious/non-belief. The inner
guidance comes from one's own Self and that of SPIRIT.
HK: "Bernie goes to Unity Church and some of them go to services at
the Eck Temple. The reason they like to go is that everyone is so
nice, not fake. They call him Big Harry"
Me: I've gone to Unity before in order to infiltrate for Eckankar. I
was even introduced to the founder's son (or was it the grandson?)
at a special reception. Actually, some of those smiling faces are
HK: "I've been called Big Cheese, Big Cabbage, but I like Big Harry.
Like the old Tennessee Ernie Ford song 'Big John'. I won't tell you
the story because it doesn't end well. Big John saved a lot of
Me: So Klemp sees himself as a big strong mythical figure who
heroically saved some people, but gave his own life in the process.
WOW! Klemp only wishes he was a hero! But, Big Fake wannabe is
closer to reality. Isn't it interesting how he compares himself to
Big John. Not very humble is it!