Hello Russ and All,
Yes, it's difficult to
erase the mahanta/
which teaches enabling
However, the reliance
upon anyone (LEM) or
thing (Mahanta) is religiously
superstitious and counter-
productive to Soul's Self-
Mastery and Spiritual
Yet, ECKists can't see
that it's both a con and
a trap! Only the strong
pass the test of Beingness
by rejecting all religious
I've had a variety of
Prior to, During, and
even greater ones After
The Mahanta crap is
so bogus! H.I. Board
Members have died of
cancer before their time
and ESC staffers and other
H.I.s will come down with
cancer as well, yet, HK
claims he can "protect"
them. But he doesn't!
It's all Lip Service! The
fault always lies with the
Eckist and never with
the Mahanta/LEM (Klemp).
I knew of one ESA, and
former Satsang President,
who read Ford's book and
quit Eckankar. Shortly afterwards,
on a flight back home, his
plane began to shake and
smoke was smelled by the
passengers. He told me that
he did not petition the Mahanta
for help nor for protection.
They landed at their scheduled
destination, on time, and
everyone was fine. That
was quite a test, but he
passed, and praying to
Klemp wasn't needed or
necessary! It sounds silly,
but Eckists "pray" to Klemp,
although, they don't see it
because they won't/can't
admit to it!
I remember after I quit
Eckankar. The stress that
was lifted from my shoulders
and neck was incredible!
I had never realized that I
had let stress overwhelm
me as it had. There were
so many leadership responsibilities.
I Followed procedures/
guidelines and did general
ass kissing and jumping
through hoops to please
the RESA for that next
initiation and position.
And, had to act "as if"
when working on ECK
projects with negative,
and incompetent people
who enjoyed their power
It was so nice to clean/clear
it all out by eliminating the
source of the stress... the
religion of Eckankar!
Afterwards, I constantly experienced
an elevated clarity of mind and
spiritual awareness. And, I had
two days where I experienced
pure contentment! It was incredible!
It's really beyond words but every-
thing becomes clearer and known
when the muck is cleared away.
The irony is that I had to quit
the religion, Eckankar, that had
promised it (contentment) to me
in the first place in order to be
able to receive It! Didn't Twitchell
refer to such things as a paradox?
Paradox or irony.... it's true!
The Truth is, Eckankar is a trap
and being strong enough to leave
is the test.
I totally agree with your
comment about being
your own person. Last
night I had a vision with
my eyes open;
this has been happening
to me for a long time.
Usually I go into, "thank
you Mahanta" routine.
Last night I acknowledged
that I have a connection
with Spirit and it isn't
dependant on the mahanta/
Really cool to feel the
connection without the
interference (middle man).
> Re: Changing My Head
> Hello Russ and All,
> I understand your position.
> The ECK Worship Service
> (EWS) is, basically, designed
> around five intents:
> 1. It's more for show and to
> blend in with other churches
> worship services while giving
> Eckankar the appearance of
> 2. It's an outreach to the
> public in order to gain new
> 3. It also serves as a social
> gathering for local ECKists
> and visitors, and gives them
> something to do and plan.
> 4. It serves as a forum for
> EK members to practice
> their Clerical and facilitating
> skills. Only the basic teachings
> are taught/repeated/reviewed.
> 5. It serves as another
> venue to sell EK materials.
> Thus, the group consciousness
> is limited as it is with any group
> meeting. A High Initiation rank
> simply means that this person
> has been an Eckist for over three
> decades, learned how to play-
> the-game, and puts on another
> face when around other Eckists
> by saying the right things and
> acting the right way. It's simply
> more illusion!
> Yes, reworking the programming
> is difficult, especially, after 30
> years as an Eckist! At times I,
> still, have to curb my thoughts
> away from the EK programming.
> It's so engrained because, as a
> skeptic, I had to force myself to
> believe. But, for years, I've clearly
> seen through the lies beginning
> with Twitchell. Ford Johnson's
> book "Confessions of a God
> Seeker" helped me make sense
> of all the doubts I had over
> the years and "why" I had them.
> I've found that It helps me to
> see the/my Higher Self, Soul,
> as the teacher and guide while,
> also, identifying myself with
> It, as Soul. And, I also look to
> Spirit for additional guidance
> and awareness.
> I really don't think that more
> sources are needed for anyone
> once they've seen through the
> fraud of what people will do
> to sell their wares. All Religions,
> and Eckankar is one, are for
> those who need to be either
> sheep (followers) or wolves
> (religious conmen). Those
> who are more enlightened
> don't need a religion. Or,
> be your own religion with
> your own dogma!
> True, one can still learn things
> from others, including seeing
> their mistakes, but this doesn't
> mean that they are to be followed
> or even emulated. One has to
> discover, or uncover, their own
> divine uniqueness.
> Russ wrote:
> I left Eckankar because I don't fit in with organized religious activity.
> Worship Service is a canned presentation. I am more interested in sharing and
> learning how people are experiencing the core principles of conscousness
> expansion. How we are dealing with the challenges of daily life and using the
> principles to overcome them.
> I felt that the public presentations were just not transmitting anything that
> engages me on more than one level. It's like the teaching hasn't been
> it's potential in creating and supporting true individuals.
> Then, I began to look at and I am confilcted here with the idea of the
> Mahanta/Inner Master. I hold out that there is a World Teacher. I don't know
> this is. When I let go of my worries and concerns in the past I have created a
> reality where I invite the Inner Master in and then feel the protection. Now I
> am thinking that some of this phenomonum is the result of the power of the
> Conscoussness. But it is such a part of my inner landscape. I don't want to
> totally undo what has been working so well but Yet I am challenged by the need
> to be merciless in sincerely tracking what I have created in my being.
> I think that this "reworking the programming" is a bit harder than I first
> I would like to hear how other's have handled this.
> With Love,
> Brother Russ