This H.I. (Starting to Get It)) is probably
a 6th initiate and has been in EK for
about 35 years. And, she likes to use
"as if" a lot. Yet, she is only "starting
to get it." Of course to "get it" has strings
attached! There's an annual required
initiation maintenance fee and more
of one's free time spent impressing
others with servitude, training, and
talking the talk and puffing up! This
doesn't say much for the spiritual insights
of H.I.s as a group, or of the abilities
of their LEM/Mahanta (Harry Klemp).
By "Starting to Get It" after 35 YEARS
is more proof that Eckankar is a scam!
The H.I. Letter - 09/2009 - page 5
"What to Do with So Much Love?"
[H.K. does not give her name, my
brackets [ ] and caps are added]
"At first I thought it was just a
temporary moment of joy, BUT
this love and joy that that flows
through me keeps building.
I wrote in my journal, `It is AS IF
I am going through a profound
initiation into the heart of God
and am experiencing divine love
in Every Cell of MY physical, mental,
and Soul bodies for the First Time
in FIVE BILLION YEARS. It is AS
IF I have come home after being
away this long. IF this is God-
Realization (the realization of God's
love), I welcome the opportunity
to "be" this much love.'"
[This H.I. defines God-Realization
as "the realization of God's love."
Let's see how Klemp defines G-R
in his EK Lexicon (pg. 81) and if
HK uses the word `love' to describe
this profound experience:
"Void, omnipresent, silent, pure,
and strangely peaceful; cannot be
apprehended with the physical senses;
realization or awareness of the God
State, the knowledge of God; attainment
of the higher spiritual state of the
supernatural life; the uniting of
the human and divine natures."
Since G-R "cannot be apprehended
with the physical senses" and must
have "attainment of the higher spiritual
state" then how can this H.I. claim
to have experienced it with "every
cell" of her "physical and mental
... bodies?" Does the Mental Body
have cells? I don't think so! The
brain has cells and is part of the
physical body. Soul doesn't have
"cells" either! I think she's confused.
I hope she doesn't jump off a bridge!
Maybe she was stuck on the Astral?]
"How does one write down what this
experience of God's love feels like?
These experiences far exceed anything
I'VE read in any ECK book. This love
pours through every aspect of MY daily
Interactions with MY coworkers at work
[the ESC] are consistently those of love,
joy, and laughter. Relationships with [her
EK] family, [EK] friends, and neighbors
offer growing opportunities to listen, love,
and SERVE [and talk/preach].
What does one `do' with so much love?
I just keep asking to be of SERVICE to
the SUGMAD [God?]
This is what has shown up: I'VE been
given the opportunity to FACILITATE
workshops at major ECK seminars
and to give talks to large audiences
[at the seminar]. I'VE been invited to
speak to a large nondenominational
church congregation that loves to sing
HU [at the EWS at the Temple]!
I'VE been invited to speak at an ECK
Worship Service at the Temple of ECK.
I'VE taught Satsang classes and Arahata
training in my region."
[All of this "I" talk leads me to think that
she's a 6th initiate with about 35 years,
and is promoting herself to become an
ESA and a 7th initiate. Or, maybe she is
an ESA (or RESA), and a 7th, and just likes
to toot her own horn... a lot!]
"And yet cleaning MY house and washing
the windows are done with the same,
constant love. Driving the neighbor's
child to school or staying in touch with
MY aging mother are filled with just as
Of course sometimes there is challenge,
sorrow, and mourning for loss. Yet as I
wrote in MY journal, `So much love in
MY heart that whether it is aching or in
rapture, the amount of love is the same.'"
[Isn't that like saying "I love you as much,
now, as when we first met?" Thus, the "love"
never grew and/or matured!]
"It all started when I asked the Mahanta,
`What's next?' and "followed" the direction
that came with all the Trust, Effort, and Heart
I could. I also made an inner (and outer)
commitment to Face the FEARS that have
haunted me for so many Years and Lifetimes."
[It amazes me that it took this H.I.
this long (about 35 years) to face her
fears! However, what has Klemp (the
Inner Master) been doing for all of these
years for this H.I. and others? Nothing!
It's because he's powerless and a fraud!
It's all an imaginary game for HK and
his gullible, feeble minded, codependent,
and fearful followers to play in order
to feel good, proud, spiritual, and safe!]
"Sri Harold, thank you for patiently
loving and teaching Souls like me."
[Doesn't this sound like she's putting
herself down as though she's shameful?
And, it's certainly clear that she doesn't
subscribe to the idea that Soul = Soul.
Instead, she sounds like a battered wife
who's groveling and is subservient to
the "man" of the house. Perhaps, HK
had her letter printed for this reason!
Klemp wants his servants to grovel on
their hands and knees before him...
their Endlessly Higher Plane Master!]
"I now know Two things to the core
of my being:
 One really can live as a conscious
Coworker with God, and
 the love and SERVICE we give is
indeed returned a thousandfold.
With oceans of love and gratitude.
Starting to Get It"
She doesn't "know" as much as she
thinks! And, it seems that she's more
of an "unconscious" coworker with God/
Why would a spiritual nonattached
a "THOUSANDFOLD" return of their
love with "oceans of love and gratitude?"
It's obvious that neither she or Klemp
are Nonattached to these expectations.
And, why does Klemp feel the need to
bribe his lowly servants/followers? It
sounds like she and HK are promoting
the same expectations that other religious
followers have (except for the 77 virgins)
and the same or similar promises that
other religious leaders make!
Yes, she had a subjectively "profound"
experience that eliminated her fears,
but she should have been having these
35 years ago! And, many others have had
these experiences, and greater, in their
current lifetime without Klemp's help!
What's really sad is that she's been as
much the phony as Klemp! By speaking
at the EWS at the Temple, and Speaking
at a Major Seminar, or Facilitating a
Seminar Workshop, and Teaching Arahata
Training, and Teaching Satsang she had
to have given a false impression about
herself and her initiation level (consciousness).
All she did was to ACT "as if" she wasn't
fearful and to act "as if" she had knowingness
and was spiritually advanced. It was all an
act! She deceived all of these people with
false testimony! What's really sad is that
most of the Eckists reading this won't
want to admit that what I've pointed out
One can't have the FEARS that she has
admitted to AND, also, be highly aware
of God (as an H.I.), and/or of the Holy
Spirit! For Klemp to promote this EK
think shows that he's a bigger fraud!