Thanks for the info Etznab. I kind of
figured that Patti wasn't active in ECKankar
since she was talking so highly about Ram
Dass recently. And, since she hasn't kept
her EK Membership current, this means
that her consciousness is now around
that of a current 2nd Initiate! Wow! From
8th to 2nd just because of a few bucks
($$$)! Actually, would a real spiritual
"path" charge money to maintain one's
(Soul's) inner plane level of consciousness?
Well, yes! Because all of this (religions, etc.)
is of the physical and Not the spiritual.
That's why they sell books and other
materials and require "requested" donations!
The only "free lunch" (freedom) comes
when Soul eliminates the middleman!
Something else for this thread. From The
It doesn't have to do with the August 7th,
1983 meeting. Not unless that was the
time when Patti became not active. My
guess was it refers to some time later.
A question for Doug. Is Patti Simpson still
an Eckist? I send all who read this my love
I believe this is a record TO FREEMAN of
"[....] I know that Patti does still feel very
fond feelings toward Paul, but she is also
not active in Eckankar. Past that, I would
rather she answer the rest for herself. [....]"
I'm not sure of the date when Doug gave
a response, but I assume it was February
2004. The 16th?
Freeman's question is dated February 9th.
Doug Marman doesn't appear to respond
until days later, but I think the link where he
did respond is currently not working.
Although Doug posted on the 22nd, my
guess is that he responed to Freeman on
the 16th. That was the date on the Vanilla
There are a number of links (more than a few)
on the new TruthSeeker site that don't work at
the present time.
At any rate, according to Doug (apparently)
Patti was "not active in Eckankar" in 2004 -
I don't know when Patti became not active,
or why. Neither do I know whether she was
terminated or resigned from her position of
Eckankar Secretary in 1983. In Ford's book
it read, to me, like she was terminated from
that position and replaced by Joan, Harold's
If I could access the Truth-Seeker
site I would show the minutes from
the meeting where officers and trustees
were appointed along with a long discussion
of what to do about Darwin. Patti was
appointed as Secretary during this very
long meeting that went until 10:00 p.m.
A recess was taken and the meeting was
to resume the very next day.
However, Patti resigned the next day after
having the night to think or dream about
what was being done to Darwin by Klemp
and his new crew (EK Board). Apparently Joan
documented the details differently, after
Patti left, by showing that Patti was "removed"
when, in fact, she resigned. Thus, HK's cover-
up began early on. A "resolution" was simply
done to officially accept Patti's resignation.
Another motion and "vote" was made into
a resolution to appoint joan to fill the empty
position. Anyway, why don't you ask Marman
to ask Patti how it went down, according to
her, and get it straight from the horse's mouth!
p.s. Tell Marman to have Patti email you rather
than take his word for what she has to say.