This next "question" is almost as
long as Klemp's answer. However,
this RESA not only sounds rather
clueless but, also, seems to lack
a "higher" Self-awareness. The RESA
seems to be Codependent and can't
think on their own. One has to wonder
WHY he has such cloudy judgment.
After all, HK says that RESAs are
"privileged" and is hinting at them
having a greater "Inner Awareness"
and special "Guidance" from the
M/LEM (HK). However, this Q&A
#2 (and the previous #1) just go
to show that higher initiations and
special titles (of "privilege") have
nothing to do with higher consciousness,
and that HK (the M/LEM) is a fraud.
ASK the MASTER - Q&A 2 of 2
Q: "As a first responder and chaplain
for the local volunteer fire department,
I have many opportunities to use inner
guidance of the ECK. [Is this 8th initiate
During a traumatic situation, if a person
has a church or religion, I will help them
contact their clergy or just be with them.
Normally my only purpose is to just listen
and be there to ask some questions that
help them talk about their experience and
However, when the person is not connected
with an established religion, I have difficulty
finding what to say or do at that moment to
help the situation."
ME: Of course! ECKists aren't supposed
to invade a person's psychic space or
to take advantage of a person when they're
in a weakened condition. Besides, should
a (detached) RESA be pushing a costly
and distorted religion upon someone instead
giving them "free" spiritual succor?
Q: (continued) "Recently the sheriff called
and asked me to sit with a fellow whose fiancee'
had just been killed in a traffic accident. He
was Not a member of a church, but he talked
about the spiritual connection he had with
this woman, who he said was his Soul Mate.
Although I carry the HU card with me and
did a silent HU, I did not think that this was
an appropriate time to talk about the HU.
Is there something else that I can do or
say to be more EFFECTive?
Thank you for the opportunity to serve
and for the guidance you provide."
ME: Well, aren't all ECKists, supposedly,
taught to follow their own (Soul's) inner
guidance via their realization of Oneness
with the ECK? Apparently not, or else
this RESA wouldn't be feeling so guilty
for not selling the M/LEM to this hurting
Soul. And, the RESA did say he used
the "inner guidance of the ECK" and
even HUed! See, how all religions really
don't work! Religions use guilt, fear,
promises, and codependency along with
belief, faith, and hope tied in with myth,
and imagination to control their followers.
In HK's EKankar reality - there is room
for only one at the top while all underlings
need to support his delusions with service.
A: (HK) "The sudden loss of one's mate
is a terrible blow, indeed. The survivor
is seldom able to find satisfying comfort
in any expression of sympathy, and may
even take exception to it, thinking, How
could you possibly know the way I feel?"
ME: That's why one should always say,
"I can't possibly know what you're feeling.
Is there anything I can do?" Then, of course,
listen. However, the RESA said that he mostly
listens so it would seem that he feels that
he needs to do more. Thus, the guilt for
not handing out a HU card as he's brain-
washed by cult/sales-speak into doing!
HK: "So a heartfelt expression must
necessarily be kept simple, such as,
'I'm terribly sorry. Is there anything
I can do?' Then mainly listen.
Of course, when called in to a situation
like this, immediately ask the Master's
help. Be calm inside. Then let him guide
you to say the right thing, at the right
ME: See! Klemp teaches codependency
upon a living God! This RESA said that
he's had "many opportunities to use the
inner guidance of the ECK" and yet seems
to need Klemp's WRITTEN snail-mail
response! Why didn't Klemp give "inner
guidance," to this RESA, in real time on
the "inner" rather than use hindsight
and, yet, another "outer" response!
HK: "This fellow had no affiliation with
a church. However, he did speak about
the spiritual connection he had enjoyed
with the deceased, his Soul Mate. You
were wisely silent. It gave him a chance
to air his feelings. In this case, the fellow
MAY have been ready to hear about ECK."
ME: Sure! For one thing the RESA could
have told him that ECKankar doesn't believe
in Soul Mates! However, since HK says
the RESA was 'wisely silent' why does he,
next, say that 'this fellow... may have been
ready to hear about ECK?' Klemp likes it
both ways. You just can't please old Harry!
HK: "A possible opening, had you felt at
the moment that something more was
appropriate, might have been to say, 'I
too believe in Soul Mates and the spiritual
connection between two people.'"
ME: But that's a lie! ECKankar and Klemp
believe in the "TIME TWINS THEORY of ECK!"
This "theory" can be found on page 209
of Klemp's EK Lexicon. This "EK Time Twins
Theory" is a corruption of Plato's Soul Mate
or Split-Apart Theory. The Lexicon states,
"When Soul discovers Itself as the ECK, and
by becoming the ECK, It has attained the
symbol of Its Soul Mate; the blending of the
Masculine and Feminine forces within the
individual into One, the Oneness with Itself."
However, when Soul becomes One with
the ECK, Itself, why does it still need a
physical (lower) plane LEM, or even a
so-called "inner" master? Why is Klemp
telling this RESA to lie? Simple, HK wants
more members (and money) by any means
HK: If a positive response, then, 'There is
an old name for God that sometimes brings
peace, HU. Would you like to hear how it
is sung?' (Play it by ear.)"
ME: The RESA was 'playing it by ear' but
still felt guilty because Klemp pushes
them to take advantage of any situation
in order to sell his wares (50% royalties)!
HK learned a lot of tricks from selling
those magazines door-to-door way back
when he was first starting out on his own.
And, Why do EKists have to sing like pet
canaries or always parrot what Klemp says?
Where is their Soul Awareness or spiritual
freedom and their Oneness with the ECK,
or their inner communication with the ECK-
Klemp is just another religious trickster!
It's so obvious! After all, if RESAs don't
have a clue then why would any other
EK chela be more aware than these chosen
hand-picked few? Thus, second guessing,
(the Mahanta), becomes most ECKists
First, a review of some quotes from
the front page article by Klemp.
"... a few Higher Initiates, and even
an occasional RESA, Do Not truly
Understand what the ECK path is
all about. Some higher initiates are
Not Higher Initiates at all, because
they Do Not Understand the role of
the M/LEM.... They are like Lost Sheep
... Neither can they Comprehend How
the ECK works... In a nutshell, they
are Poor ECK ambassadors... People
on the Loser's Track often take awhile
to catch themselves."
Ask the Master - Q&A 1 of 2
"Klemp has given permission to print
these questions from RESAs and his
response. Read "high Initiate" [Loser]
where the word RESA appears."
Q: "Would you please share the qualities
and behaviors that are most desirable in
a RESA [High Initiate, i.e. Loser]?"
A: "It is not possible to separate a quality
[or inequality] from any of its resulting
behaviors. Foremost is PATIENCE. Chelas
[lower initiates] DO NOT Understand--
the first, second, or even the third time
around--what is expected of them, in
terms of behavior or attitude. So a RESA
must be eternally patient."
ME: Of course, Klemp's real concern is that
"chelas" [the worker bees] don't understand
the workings of the Outer Business of the
ESC/RESA org & church. Thus, they need
to get in line, follow orders and change their
attitudes and behaviours in order to become
HK: "RESOURCEFULNESS is certainly important.
All too often, the ways and means of accomplishing
a project are simply not there, in either
qualified help, money, or material."
ME: See! Klemp's focus (attention) is upon
numbers! He's more concerned with sales
than anything else. The only reason he wants
more "members" is for that annual membership
fee and to sell more materials (his books).
Remember, HK gets 50% royalties!
The fact is that many EK Members have always
donated their time and money. I used to donate
locally and to the ESC Building Fund and to the
Missionary Fund and, of course, there was the
required annual membership donation. But, there
were also expenditures (donations) for brochures,
boxes of books, pocket posters etc. to hand out.
And, I donated extra money for EK booths, signs,
pictures and supplies, as well as, equipment,
photos, etc. for the local EK Center. Plus, I bought
(for myself) every new book and CD, etc. that
was printed. And, I bought EK jewelry too! Plus,
I donated my time (travel time included) which
averaged anywhere from 6-20 hours per week!
HK: "HONESTY too. RESAs are to be true to
themselves spiritually. Thus, Greed for something
[or someone] NOT theirs is harmful to all, as
is also a Desire for Power, and the Abuses that
spring from it. Both are Negative and Harm others."
ME: However, aren't ALL, SOULs, a Law Unto
Itself and are, thus, 'true to themselves spiritually!"
Sure! And, this includes Lower Initiates and Non-
EKists! Isn't it interesting that Klemp has to
"physically" speak these words to his RESAs and
tell them Not to be Greedy, or to have Envy, and
to Do No Harm to others via an Abuse of their Power
and Position! Too bad HK didn't tell them "Not To"
Lust as well!
Isn't this more proof that Klemp (the M/LEM) Doesn't
have any "Inner Communication" with his RESAs, or
"Know" what each are doing! Thus, this fact (proven
via his own words) invalidates any and all imagined
stories of such "communication" by other ECKists!
HK: "DEVOTION to the Mahanta, the LEM is the
keystone for anyone who Desires the Ultimate
Experience of GOD. This obviously entails the
practice of the Spiritual Exercises of ECK. It
further means the reading of, or listening to,
the holy works of ECK.
It is a remarkable Privilege to Serve as a RESA
[H.I., Loser]. Doing so will help you unfold in
ways you once would never have dreamed
ME: It's interesting that Klemp has H.I.s inserting
the words "High Initiate" in place of "RESA." It just
goes to show that RESAs aren't really anymore
"privileged," or special, or more "aware" than others,
regardless, of what Klemp tries to sell. It's another
illusion [the special RESA (police) position] that the
Black Magician (HK) created back in the mid-1980s.
In fact, RESAs are just bosses over their volunteer
underlings! Some are more hands-on while others
delegate everything (B.H.). BUT, Klemp stated in his
front page article that some RESAs, and other H.I.s,
are Losers and are Unaware of (don't understand)
the ECK! Why did Klemp promote them? Because
Klemp, too, is Unaware.
Thus, those Higher Initiations don't mean a thing!
Why, then, remain in EKankar when Twitchell stated
that "Soul is a Law Unto Itself." Do these "advanced
EK Souls" really need another religion that has empty
promises, and Desires for Privilege and Power (the
goal of RESA-ship)? Apparently so!
However, religions (including ECKankar), with their
ever changing scripture, rules, laws, instructions and
guidelines, tend to hinder Soul's REAL spiritual growth