Thanks for the insights. I'm thinking that Twit
wasn't as smart as he was good at lying. And,
since he had years of practice, he knew that
a really good (believable) lie had to have some
truth mixed in.
BTW- I added other comments below.
Many former cult members, not just eckists,
can be too hard on themselves for falling for
a con, and I think that's because they're so
"trained" to not question, not to doubt, and
to look at their cult & the leaders as "perfect."
Over the years, many eckists have written
to tell me that it's okay if I chose to leave,
evidently I needed to in order to get "lessons"
elsewhere, I'd return to "the master" one day,
but it was *very* wrong to speak out against
ekult, and I should think of all the bad karma
I'd get if I prevented someone else from joining,
ME: Well, we rejected the religion of our parents
and thought that we knew more, and could see
through these religious Myths. Because ECKankar
was "different" and gave some "answers," involving
Karma etc. versus the "Will of God," it appeared
to be a more valid, honest, and higher "path."
Twitchell was pretty smart, and he'd studied
cults and human behavior enough to know that
some people *would* wake up and leave, so
he incorporated "damage control" into the
"teachings", figuring that the best he could
hope for is that those who left would keep
their mouths shut. One of these tactics is
when former members leave, they'll blame
themselves for being dumb enough to fall
for it to begin with.
ME: Once again, I think Twitch just had
a lot of experience lying. PT lied, plagiarized,
exaggerated, and twisted facts in order to
have his pre-ECK articles published. After
all, he did write articles for "Ripley's Believe
It Or Not!" And Yes! Klemp continues the
damage control with his own "ekplanations"
for why EKists leave. Plus, this is why Klemp
uses so many testimonials in ECK Publications.
Normally it would be like preaching to the choir,
but in this case the testimonials are used to
give the impression of validity to those chelas
who aren't as discerning. It's damage control!
The fault is *not* with the victim, it's with
the lying scheming con artist! Oh, that's
another thing the cult does, eckthugs will
try to silence former members by saying
they're stuck in "victimhood". That's not
true at all. Being quiet about it only enables
con artists and criminals to keep doing
what they're doing.
ME: Just because ECKists have to practice
the "Law of Silence" they think that everyone
else should too. Except, Doug Marman doesn't
keep silent does he? I wonder why ECKankar
won't print his books? Then again, I can see
why Klemp leaves him alone... DM would be
a dangerous enemy only because he knows
too much! On the other hand Doug might feel
too embarrassed that he was suckered for all
of those years to say anything. Isn't that called
I was one of those who felt I lost my innocence,
my sense of awe and wonder. Well, ever since
I was a kid, I preferred my own fantasy world
to the sometimes harsh realities of life. I'm glad
it *did* come back, except now I'm much more
"balanced", and critical thinking & discernment
have a place in my personal "lalaland". <gg>
ME: The same happened with me. It's taken me
a long time to gradually recover. It probably depends
upon ones personality, somewhat, and whether
or not one tends to see the glass half-empty or
half-full. I'm somewhat of a skeptic anyway and
that's, also, why it was difficult for me to let go
and truly "believe" in the Mahanta. But, seeing the
negative behaviours of other H.I.s and them getting
even more initiations was proof (among other things)
that Klemp had No Knowledge or Awareness. Thus
the claims of rank and title (14th Plane Mahanta)
are false! Ford's revelations in "Confessions of a
God Seeker" simply confirmed my suspicions and
connected the dots for me! No wonder things didn't
seem right with those initiations!
It's a bit ironic, I had an "inner voice" long before
ekult. And it often whispered to me when I first
encountered ekult that there was just something
"wrong", but I stifled and thought it was the "Kal",
thank to all those darned eckbooks!!! Gee, I just
had a "flash" - something I haven't looked at in
many years, "Masters" from "The Impersonal Life": http:www.//geocities.com/eckcult/masters.html
- if anyone hasn't seen this, check it out, it's beautiful!!
ME: I had an "Inner Voice" way before EKankar as
well! I also had more "phenomenal experiences"
than any H.I.s that I talked with after first joining
and for years and years later!
I was also surprised to learn that EKists weren't
that disciplined with the Spiritual Exercises. Twenty
minutes daily, for me, didn't qualify as a "discipline."
And, I was surprised to hear EKists complain about
the membership costs because other groups were
much more expensive. I got the impression that
most ECKists didn't know very much about other
spiritual paths or disciplines. This is probably why
many EKists explore other things like Rune Stones,
and other "New Age" discoveries etc. even after being
EKists for many years.
Prometheus & others have posted good examples
of how that "magic" still works when you leave
the cult - okay, I'm remembering recently reading
a story of finding a diet soda in the fridge? My
memory works in a sort of "Reader's Digest" way
anymore. <gg> Well, the difference I've found
since leaving the cult is those "magic" happenings
are *good* things now! Over the years in ekult,
I figured those "messages", etc., so often turned
out just plain *bad* because I was working out
old karma. Well, that just plain wasn't true.
The problem was the *source*, ekult and its so-
ME: Yep! That was my Diet A&W Root Beer miracle!
In EK Klemp gets all the credit for anything and
everything (good) since one is supposed to do
everything in his (the Master's) name. This is,
of course, a form of mind-control and hypnosis.
Unfortunately, these controlling techniques will
have negative repercussions later on when one
tries to establish Self-responsibility, Spiritual
Freedom, Self-Mastery, and independence for
oneself as Soul. This more proof that Klemp is
a KAL agent! And, "doing everything in HK's name"
is a form of "worship!" ECKists are too confused
to tell the difference! They, too, are worshipping
a 2nd or 4th Plane God (HK- the agent of KAL,
i.e. Satan, the Devil)!
BTW, when an EKist does something that turns
out negative and it's done in the Master's
name how does that work? Why does a negative
effect/result always becomes a "spiritual test"
or "karma?" Klemp never takes responsibility!
Besides, aren't the "good" and "positive" results
sill a form of "White Karma (White Magic)?" What
happened to "Karmaless" action, or is this the
"Gray" (Catch-22) area that Klemp is now promoting?
Are actions neg. (black) or pos. (white) or neutral
(gray) on this lowest (physical) plane?
Besides, isn't it true (according to EK Dogma) that
the "Master" is "Always With You!" Therefore, why
do EKists have to remember to self-brainwash
themselves by saying or thinking to "do everything
in the name of the Master?" Isn't that redundant?
IF the "Master" IS ALWAYS WITH YOU Why do EKists
have to do Everything in HK's name?
Aren't they "covered" IF they're wearing their EK rings,
or HU pendants?
EKists should remember, too, (when chanting HU)
the Tisra Til (Third Eye) is a Chakra and ALL Chakras
are of the Astral! And, Klemp still teaches ECKists to
focus upon the Third Eye when it's Not Even the Highest
Chakra! Isn't it strange that after all of these years and
the expansion of world consciousness under Klemp's
reign (lol) that EKists are still instructed to use the Tisra
Til instead of the Crown Chakra! Actually, this is just
more proof that Klemp isn't who or what he claims to
be. He's a two-faced Astral KAL agent!