Key words about that Kali quote (IMO)
are: "There is said to be...."
When someone says "said to be", the
context can involve hand-me-down history.
That doesn't make it true. Pseudo inform-
ation can be (and has been) handed down
So Paul read a lot and heard a lot. Then
he wrote it down.
Does anybody remember his reference
to ... how do you spell it? Ramakrishna?
How, this Indian guy waited for hours and
days for the mother goddess to appear?
I think it was in one of the earlier books.
Maybe I can find it sometime.
The problem with hand-me-down history,
IMO, is that if your just writting it to write
it, eventually different accounts about the
same topic are going to contradict. Maybe
a reason is that reported history contains
true and false, and every shade in between.
Paul, Darwin and Harold probably could
have researched the sources of dogma &
history better (IMO). Admitting when they
are not absolutely certain that something
is the God's honest truth.
"Said to be ..." is one indicator, IMO, that
something may not represent the total truth.
From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...
Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 6:48 pm
Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Excerpts From Klemp's 2008 EWWS
These quotes are from anot
notes listening to Klemp's Seminar talk,
thus, these notes (if not word for word)
do provide the proper context of what HK
***Excerpt From Klemp's 2008 EWWS Talk:
HK: "Groups of nations change and shift
gears just as various groups of people do.
These things, like the economic crisis and
wars, don't just happen. They are caused
by people acting as Unconscious Agents
of the KAL or Negative Force. BUT there is
a process of purification involved with shifting
gears. Whether a government is Totalitarian
or Democratic, the leaders that are in place
there, are there because the people of that
country have things to learn."
While looking at Twitchell's 1969 Copyright
of The Flute of God I saw what looked to be
a different perspective than what Klemp gave.
From "The Flute of God" pages 7 & 13:
"There are individual living upon this earth
who are centuries old. THERE IS SAID to be
one, a woman, who is supposedly a MILLION
YEARS OLD. Her purpose for living is DESTRUCTION,
and for that reason SHE PASSES FROM ONE
NATION TO ANOTHER CREATING HAVOC WHEREVER
SHE GOES. She is known by many names.
In India they call her Kali, the mother goddess,
the goddess of destruction."
"If Soul is the effect of something, then
always change this, take the initiative and become
cause. That and that alone! Soul can always be
cause, can take care of Itself. Of course, It can
be effect, but It must be knowing effect, never
unknowing. Always look at life this way."
So, is Klemp's 2008 Seminar message just
a rehash reflecting PT's consciousness from
49 years ago? Compare it for yourself!