I was wondering when Darwin Gross, the 972nd LEM/Mahanta, became
a Black Magician? Was this Before or After he had passed the Rod of
ECK Power to Klemp? If After then why were the Mahanta's writings,
PRIOR to 1981, destroyed? Those ECK Initiations that Gross gave are
still valid aren't they? Of course, or else all those Eck Higher
Initiations that Klemp received are invalid as well!
So, what happened to those Eck discourses and the other writings by
the 972nd LEM/Mahanta? Is Dap Ren still an ECK Master? Where is the
ECK history from those 10 years? Afterall, those ECK teachings and
writings are still more current than Twitchell's writings! Gross
even instructed/suggested that Klemp add the 'Wah' to his spiritual
name instead of just using 'Z.'
One Eckist (on another site) shared that he and Darwin's secretary,
and 8th Initiate, B.B. even chose who would be sent pink slips!
Darwin was too busy for these minor details of daily business and
delegated this to his secretary B.B.
The truth is that ECKists are Not permitted to discuss Darwin or ask
these questions. If they do inquire about these things they will be
Black Listed on initiations and initiation is the one primary
currency for ECKists. There is no open dialogue. This is part of the
silent intimidation of ECKANKAR that Klemp uses to control the minds
of his Initiates (chelas). These followers all fall into step behind
the spoken and unspoken rules of H.K. as they blindly stick their
heads into the sand. It's sad but true - the religion of Eckankar
and the past history of a fallen Mahanta can't stand up to real
Of course, Twitchell invented the title of Mahanta anyway in around
May or June of 1969! He needed to make himself beyond the reproach
of his critics. Ask Doug Marman about this if you don't believe me!
Here's what Klemp has to say about the Mahanta: "The main difference
between ECKANKAR and all other religions is that the Mahanta, the
Living ECK Master is the Word. He is the ECK." [Paul Twitchell in
Context of the Times]
How does this definition differ from that of Jesus? Wasn't Jesus
also referred to as being One with the Word or Logos (Spirit)? Isn't
it interesting to know that this is the "main difference between
ECKANKAR and all other religions." And, since Radhasoami also has a
Living Master (with the same powers as Klemp), as does other
religions, what now are the differences?
For someone who is supposed to be so advanced in consciousness Klemp
sounds like a dim-wit. He reminds me of G.W. Bush! LOL! I'm still
puzzled as to how G.W. got an MBA from Whorton! I wonder why Doug
Marman doesn't point out Harry's screw-ups? Doug likes to go after
the earlier works of David Lane to point out minor inaccuracies but
never points out the same with Klemp. One would think that the grand
LEM/Mahanta would be more accountable than a non-ECKist!
Here's just one example of Klemp's lack of consciousness. On
under "Part 2
Research on Paul's Life" Klemp states:
"In about 1959, Paul left Washington, D.C., and moved to England.
Six months later he found out that his sister Kay-Dee (Kate) was
dying of an incurable illness. He immediately returned home to
Paducah, Kentucky, and stayed with her for the final two months of
her life." [Last modified June 22, 2003]
Now, if one goes to this site (below) you can see Kay-Dee's death
certificate. [The print-out is much clearer].
So, Kay-Dee was born on July 8, 1904 and died March 11, 1959 of a
liver disease that was diagnosed 4 months prior to her death.
Therefore, if P.T. was really in England then he was there in 1958
(not 1959) and had to leave around Jan. 11, 1959 in order to be with
his sister in her last two months. Except, she was diagnosed around
Nov. 11, 1958, therefore, Twit did not leave or hear about her
illness in November since he was in England for six months prior to
Kay-Dee's last two months of life. This means Twitchell arrived in
England around July of 1958 and didn't leave or hear about her
diagnosis in November!
Klemp has this information too so why can't he be more accurate?
Probably because his lack of consciousness prevents him from being
able to analyze the info and connect the dots! Details can be
important, and the lack of details point to something even greater
being wrong! The same lack of awareness comes to play when Klemp
points out that P.T. was born in 1908 (in front of the Shariyat 1&2)
and then mentions that when PT was 27 (1935) that he
was 'exaggerating' and 'twisting facts' to get into Kentucy's Who's
Who - that 'rascal!' Later in this same P.T. info (on Eckankar.org)
Klemp points out that in 1935 (at age 27) that Twitchell met (970th
LEM/Mahanta) Sudar Singh in India! Yet, once again Klemp can't seem
to connect the dots and see the lie! Amazing!
BTW - 9 years after his sister Kay-Dee's death Twitchell invented
the female Eck Master Kata Daki (K.D.).