It is interesting that Peter is still using Darwin Gross's "key
phrase" of saying, 'When you know, you know.' Perhaps he should read
the comments of James Davis in regard to his outer/inner experiences
with Klemp (i.e. the fake Mahanta, Dream Master, Inner Master).
Also, Peter needs to reread Chapter 7 in "Soul Travelers of the Far
Country" where Klemp talks about working in a SOUNDPROOF DARKROOM as
a camerman in the print department at the ESC. This is where HK met
with Gross, on two different occasions, beginning in March of 1980.
There is NO connection with the Eck, the Twin Pillars, the Light and
Sound with Klemp! This is "Golden-Tongued Wisdom" and a "Waking
Dream" for all Eckists! Funny, how Eckists overlook the details.
It's like with that 09/2003 H.I. Letter story of Klemp's and
that "Third" Temporary Postal Clerk or "fill-in," and the
relationship with the "Law of Economy" when the clerk asked to check
Joan's I.D. (to verify she had it with her) before looking for her
package. Where was the "Golden-Tongued Wisdom" and "Waking Dream"
experience for Joan (or for HK reporting this)? Yet, Peter continues
to talk about the validating "subtle" experiences that Eckists have!
Eckists can't even comprehend what is put down in print before their
very own eyes!
How then can Eckists deny the importance of these facts and still
claim that they have valid outer or inner experiences when they are
blind to the truth behind these factual events written by Klemp?!
Anyway Liz, thanks for mentioning the Conservations With Twitchell
group... it's a hoot! BTW, I'm still puzzled as to why the RESAs,
the ESC, and Klemp still condone the negativity of Eck Vahanas like
Rich Smith (cybersailor) to continue?! This Negativity is definitely
a reflection on Eckankar and Klemp since it is permitted to continue
everywhere on the Internet. Therefore, this bad behavior is
being "unofficially" promoted since the RESAs, the ESC and Klemp
KNOW of these sites and even of the "dirty tricks" (true KAL
behavior)! Klemp has demoted Eckists (taken away initiations) and
has kicked Eckists out of Eckankar (revoked memberships) for less!
Wonder why the rest of Hu-chat can't see that Cyrus is a plant....
he isn't really an eckist anymore now is he? Well at least Cheryl
can continue bossing the guys around!
*** Come to think of it, how many times has Peter Anton become a
born again eckist in the last 27 years? He at least has the
financial thing under control! Take that 5 year resting period,
send in the membership money just before losing his initiation
level, and poof he saves himself a butt load of money! ;-)
BTW wonder if Grundie has read any of Peter's comments over on
ConversationsWithTwitchell? He sure doesn't sound like a devoted
eckist, let alone a good candidate for Hu-chat Moderator. Unless of
course it's about that fake initiation thing that keeps him hangin
It won't take long for the new mods to clash, before we see two of
them gracefully leave. Cheryl of course will be in it for the long
haul. Her ego won't let her do otherwise!
What do you get when you sandwich Cheryl between the guys?
A twinkie ;-)