Thanks for the heads-up, Jim. This is big news everywhere across the old-car hobby this week. It s very political with major forces pushing both ways as big
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, Jun 26
Thanks for the heads-up, Jim. This is big news everywhere across the old-car hobby this week. It's very political with major forces pushing both ways as big dollars are involved.
We've discussed one solution before, and that's to burn non-ethanol leaded aviation gasoline, available from smaller airports. It's illegal to pump it directly into any car but it's legal to pump it into labeled containers.
(I asked why leaded gas is still legal for light airplanes, and the reply was "That's what the planes were designed to burn." Sound familiar?)
1a. Re: Bad news on ethanol today ... From: Jim Plank
__________________________________ 1a. Re: Bad news on ethanol today ... Posted by: "Jim Plank" jpcarcapsules@... jpcarcapsules Date: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:27 am ((PDT))
Lou, I know of one gas station in GA. (exit 29 off of I-75) and one station in Carlisle PA. selling E-85. Jim
________________________________ From: LouRugani <x779@...> To: Crosley@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:53 AM Subject: =CROSLEY CAR OWNERS CLUB= Bad news on ethanol today ...
Today the Supreme Court rejected a challenge by the American Petroleum Institute to block sales of E15 but left in place a federal appeals court ruling that dismissed challenges by the oil industry group and trade associations representing food producers, restaurants and others. Ethanol is cheaper and cleaner but could damage our older cars and motorcycles. E15 is 15 percent ethanol, well above the current 10 percent norm. It's currently sold in fewer than two dozen stations in the Midwest but could spread everywhere as the Feds consider whether to require more ethanol in gasoline.
There's heavy lobbying oil and ethanol interests from Congress to the White House and the Supreme Court including from Growth Energy, an ethanol industry group. The API called the decision a loss for consumers because the EPA approved E15 before vehicle testing was complete and E15 may cause significant mechanical problems in millions of cars on the road today.
The Renewable Fuel Standard law was approved by Congress in 2005 and requires refiners to blend increased amounts of ethanol into gasoline each year. The EPA proposes a 16.5 billion-gallon production requirement for ethanol and other gasoline alternatives this year, up from 15.2 billion gallons last year. By 2022, the law will call for more than double that amount, and the API says the law is causing a looming crisis for gasoline consumers with unsafe levels of ethanol which could damage vehicles and harm consumers.
Old-car lobbyists (SEMA/SAN), the API and refiners are trying to have the law waived or repealed. A station in Lawrence, Kan., was the first in the nation to sell E15 last year but Phillips 66 says it can't sell E15 from black fuel hoses. The AAA, for now, sides against E15 and says the government should halt E15 sales until further testing shows which cars can safely use E15. Another E15 opponent is the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers with 12 major car makers saying E15 gas is more corrosive and that older cars were never designed to use E15 and that over time it could create significant engine problems, citing engine problems discovered during a study last year.
For now, E15 is sold through about 20 stations in Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
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