Thanx for joining our group. Like Rick, I am also new here and do not
have a science background. However, after having been a pew-potato (and
primarily an evolutionist) for almost twenty years, I suddenly caught
fire as a Christian as a result of listening to Ken Ham, et al regarding
the subject of Creation. During the past two years I've been cutting my
Creationist teeth by doing speaking at Christian schools, Sunday
schools, and at various churches here in Connecticut. People tell me
that I'm a passionate speaker on the topic and one who tries to mix
motivation & evangelism into my talks. (Two years ago I would have told
them that they have me confused with someone else). Anyway, I'm going to
continue down this path and see where it goes. If God wants me to quit
my cushy job, so be it, I'm ready.
There are many, many great posters on this site, and I spend a LOT of
time cutting & pasting their insightful thoughts and weaving them into
my extensive topic database (copywrite permitting). I look forward to
being able to comment & review your PDF.
BTW, you mentioned downloading audio's from NWCreation.net, which I use
religiously (excuse the pun). In my case, I burn CD's which I listen to
during my long commutes. Having virtually exhausted their free files, I
am now picking away at Sermon Audio's files...all (522) current lectures
on Creation/Evolution. Good stuff. I've provided a link below to
anyone not familiar with this site.
Hi Rick and Thanks!
I think it is great that you stockpile information! We need more people
with more knowledge in this area. I also consider myself a Bible student
well. Being born and raised in a great Bible believing mission oriented
church has helped! My brother is a preacher as well. I currently work
my best friend at our church in our teen department. Earlier this year
spent about 2 months on creation and evolution. I agree with what you
about the position of YEC. Also, I agree about many other sincere
hold to a old earth. I think, perhaps the largest reason for that is a
misunderstanding early in their faith that science has a superior
in this world as a form of absolute truth. Now, I think I understand how
science is supposed to work and what true science implies. Even the
in my lab does not even understand what real science is. For instance,
recently had 'made' a bacterial strain in which we put a gene into it.
was under the impression that we have added antibiotic resistance and
is evolution right there...he told me 'how can people not see it?' I
replied to him: "Well, we started with bacteria already present, we then
added a gene that already had function; we then ended with bacteria as
started with, and it took two scientists with a lot of education to
accomplish it! (Not counting the scientist's work some of it is based
the kits we use in our labs in order to do a lot of the work...etc. You
the picture...he said...yeah....yeah. :) It was funny. Maybe later I
into some of the talks I have with a good friend and colleague that is a
cancer biologist...When I decided to go into this area of creation
decided along with my wife that we need a strong background in other
of the Bible including history, archaeology, and things like that. If,
creationists we hold the Bible to be all we should claim it to
our belief in creation will be attacked at its foundation, the Bible.
the science. The science speaks for itself. Well, true science that is.
Origins and Science really are separate no matter how tightly Darwinists
continue to claim they are stuck together! :) Well, I am glad to meet
Oh, the website. I am not sure what direction it is going to go. The
newsletter I am working on is still underway for the first edition. As
as it is ready I will send you a PDF of it to look over for any
advice/opinions. The first issue mainly brings about the importance of
whole issue (creation/evolution) as well as our starting place and our
Biblical bias. The newsletter will be focusing on a few little articles
the plain language of scripture...like Jonathan Sarfarti/John Morris
out in a lot of their work. Actually, God has given me one good friend
the creation world, Frank Sherwin. I met him years ago at an ICR
in Massachusetts, at which time he was taking graduate courses in
parasitology (one area I focused on in undergraduate school). As well as
recently I was able to sit down with Ken Ham at breakfast at an AIG
conference in New Hampshire (we bumped into each other the morning of
conference at our hotel and exchanged information/contact information)
a blessing! So, just not sure about the site...I want to say it will
gradually evolve into something bigger...but, most likely it will happen
one big punctuated jump! (I know, poor evolutionary humor!). Well, again
am glad to meet you and look forward to talking more. Take care for now.
<mailto:HYPERLINK> ] On
Behalf Of Rick Toews
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [CreationTalk] New to CreationTalk and NWCreation and
Hello Derek, and Welcome!
My name's Rick, and I'm actually rather recent to this list myself.
Although I don't have a science background, I'm accumulating books and
relevant to the subject of origins; and I've recently begun reading In
Beginning Was Information, by Dr. Werner Gitt.
On the other hand, I do consider myself something of a Bible student;
recognize that, as a Christian, YEC is the only tenable position. (Not
all to deny that there are lots of good Christians who disagree but
simply haven't reflected sufficiently on the implications.)
I went to have a look at your Web site. Is this to be an online version
your church newsletter, or is it targeted more generally?
I think it's awesome that you and your wife feel God is calling you into
creation science. I tend to think this is an important aspect of
evangelism, as Revelation 14:6-7 describes the gospel as a call to
----- Original Message -----
To: CreationTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CreationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: [CreationTalk] New to CreationTalk and NWCreation and wanted to
Hi, my name is Derek and I am new here. So, I thought I would say
hello to everyone and get a feel for this site. I am new to this
kind of group 'thing'. Anyhow. I am a young earth creationist (Both
my wife and I). We believe the Lord is calling us into creation
science. It has been a love of mine for a long time. I have been
working full time in bacterial genetics for a couple of years since
finishing school. I am going back to school next year to work/finish
my PhD in this field. My wife is currently a PhD student studying
neuroscience. So, we are looking to meet new creationists and make
friends and contacts. I recently just put up a one page temporary
website we are working on. www.InSixDays.org. I am working on a
newsletter for our church currently called "InSixDays". Anyhow, our
creation statement of faith is on the temporary hosting site/space.
I was recently in touch with Michael Oard about some of his work. I
came across some of the NWcreation conference videos and downloaded
them to my Ipod and while sometimes research has its slow moments I
am blessed to study creation amongst a bunch of Harvard trained
evolutionists. Anyhow, nice to meet everyone. Hope to get a chance
to talk with some people here. Once again, I have found the
NWCreation work/ministry such a blessing. Although I am far away,
Boston, perhaps the NECreation group we should start! :) Take care.
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