*deep breath* *tries not to rant*
I'm very curious as to several things in your report. I've been involved with the gothic subculture for 11 years now (boy am I feeling old now) and am still considered a "newcomer" by several.
I'm very curious as to:
A) why you spell goth with an e ("gothe") as I've never seen it that way.
B) why you say that "true goths" wear colours but "dark goths" are a separate subset.
My experiences within the subculture are entirely different than what you have described. Thus I am extremely curious as to where you have gotten your information :)
Also, are you familiar with many of the other goth subgroups, such as romantigoth, cybergoth (now the biggest group), ponygoth, etc? There are at least thirty different subcategories as recognized by the general net.goth community although not all of them are strictly fashion oriented. Most of these subcategories have been around for at least 6 years and so are nothing new to the scene at all. Gothic subculture itself is 20+ years old and Tara can regale us with her stories of the New Romantics who were goth's immediate precursor :)
Also tight shirts, low slung pants etc in my experience are only worn by gravers, who are not goths at all although they attend many of the same nightclubs.
--- In CostumeHistoryClass@yahoogroups.com, "rkolpakas <RKolpakas@s...>" <RKolpakas@s...> wrote:
> One of the high school rebellion styles that I have specifically
> noticed, and not partially because I myself once dressed such, is
> the new phenomenon of gothe. When I listed myself under that title,
> there was only gothe. Lately however I have noticed some branching
> and sub-sects partitioning themselves off from those that I would
> consider gothe.
> What I was in my day, and what I still call "true gothe" in
> conversation is becoming less and less pronounced in my city.
> Generally true gothes are female, though they do come in the male
> variety. Girls wear long turn of the century skirts, shoes, and
> some form of dress shirt. Men also wear button up shirts, generally
> of older styles, as well as slacks. They generally tend towards
> darker autumn colors: navy blue, forest green, crimson, and umbers.
> They do not, as other "sects" do, dress in all black. They may also
> be characterized by the fabric choices - velvet, lace and silk are
> all common. Men will often let their hair grow longer, and females
> will often hastily pin theirs into an up-do. Finally, almost all
> true gothes wear cloaks in the winter, for which I envy them: there
> is nothing warmer then a fir-lined cloak in a New York winter.
> The first sect I began to notice breaking away from the
> traditional gothes is what I call dark gothes. They are the ones you
> generally see in all black. The dark gothes style tends to be more
> modern and sexy. Tight shirts, midriffs, low-slung pants and
> platform shoes are all in the dark gothes wardrobes. The truly
> distinguishing feature of the dark gothe is the face. Generally,
> they will dye their hair black and they have an elaborate make-up
> style that harkens of ancient Egypt: dark and accentuated eyes,
> white base foundation, and dark lipstick.
> The third and final break away group I call the punk
> gothes. They are a kind of cross between the baggy clothed punk
> group and the "dark gothes." They wear the hairstyle and the make
> up of the afore mentioned dark gothes, but they dress in baggy black
> pants and dark tee shirts generally bearing the name or insignia of
> a band. The truly distinguishing mark between punk gothes and true
> punks is the lack of "causes." Gothes don't wear the "save the (fill
> in the blank)" patches and shirts that give punks their purpose in
> Gothes just are.