Why cannot one simply make sure both boxes have either eggs or less than 3 day old larvae? That seems a lot simpler. If both boxes have eggs/young larvae, it should not matter which got the queen.
--- In Beekeeping@yahoogroups.com, "Kewisch, Jorg" <jorg@...> wrote:
> the best time to split a hive is in May or June (the time when bees swarm). Splitting too early is bad. The bees need eggs or young larva to make a new queen, so when you split make sure that the hive without queen has those.
> Starting the end of april you inspect the hive every 7-10 days and look for queen cells. If you find those it is time to split and you put those frames into one hive and the queen into the other.
> Otherwise split in the end of May. If you don't find the queen you put a queen excluder between the brood boxes. After 4 days you split and look for eggs. That tells you where the queen is. You take that frame, shake all bees off and give it to the other box.
> Make sure both boxes have some honey and pollen and capped brood.
> If you find the queen make her with a paint pen. You need to be careful not to kill her in the process, so practice on some drones (they don't sting, the queen can sting but usually does not)
> From: Beekeeping@yahoogroups.com [Beekeeping@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of James [jaimesbeam@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:44 PM
> To: Beekeeping@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Beekeeping] Hive Splitting: Simple or Complicated? The Fat Beekeeper
> I watched a bunch of videos by "The Fat BeeKeeper/Guy" on YouTube.
> He was talking about how easy it was to split hives. He says you don't
> need to find the queen, or get another queen or anything like that.
> He says you just need to split up the brood and bees, and the hive without
> a queen will make a new queen. I think you need to make sure you get
> some nurse bees in each hive that can't fly back to the original hive.
> I don't know where/if you should move the hives.
> I also don't know when to split hives. I imagine some time in spring.
> Of course I'm in Maine...
> He also shows how to raise queens in any hive where you've removed
> the queen. It basically amounts to that bees will raise a queen out of any
> larva in a vertically hanging cell (opening own)
> What to you think?
> Thanks, Jim in Maine