Very good points across the board Alan. My intention was just to get the ball rolling, and look at it go :) Got any ideas? It really shouldn t be aMessage 1 of 48 , Oct 18, 2006View SourceVery good points across the board Alan. My intention was just to get the ball rolling, and look at it go :)Got any ideas? It really shouldn't be a difficult thing, but it will become some kind of political thing. So I think the solution will be that it, (the badge) become a completely new thing, not based in any existing device. That should be good.----- Original Message ----
From: Alan Terlep <atterlep@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:03:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Ayreton Badge Contest
If someone registers a badge, they can use it as they see fit. You can register a badge and tell people that you intend for it to be used by the people of Ayreton. Then it becomes, in practice, the Ayreton badge.
I've seen hundreds of devices and badges that looked good on paper, but were practically impossible to use. It would be a real shame if Ayreton picked something that wasn't actually usable. A gyronny of blue and green (to take one example mentioned here) won't be visible unless you're staring at the device up close for a long time--which is how people look at heraldry when they're choosing it, but not how they see it in practice. Think about the Midlands badge--from any distance at all, all you see is a gold ring. It still works to identify the Midlands, since a a gold ring on red can be identified from a long way away, but nobody can tell it's a dragon unless they're staring at a banner.
It would good to keep in mind that the rules of heraldry were developed through centuries of trial and error, and are used because they work. Billboards follow the same rules that medieval heraldry does--they have colors on metals, and limit their images to one or two easily identifiable items.
So if you're going to do a bean count, you need to make sure that the heraldry is displayed in a way that simulates how it will be used in real life. The best way to do that is to display the designs on 2" rounds. Or if you wanted to be more ambitious, put them on newsprint and hang them on a clothesline in the wind, and have the voters stand 200' away.
Sorry, I messed up did not include the reasons for the badges. You are right about the hand under the table and the pizza. The first one celebrates the REALMessage 48 of 48 , Nov 3, 2006View SourceSorry, I messed up did not include the reasons for the badges. You are right about the hand under the table and the pizza.The first one celebrates the REAL official animal of the area: the Construction Horse (gold (yellow) horse across a black stripe extending into the distance). Yeah, I know, perspective is right out in heraldry.Oh, a question to all of the fine heralds out there. How is wind depicted in heraldry?-*Angus*-
suzanearley@... wrote:I don't get the first one, but the 'under the table' and the 'pizza on a restaurant table' I dig. :DGhita
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From: "exit104" <exit104@yahoo. com>
> OK, here are some tongue firmly in cheek suggestions.
> Please remeber that I do not have leet Hearldry Skillz. Anything
> that I could not say in blazon-eese is in parens. Real Hearlds
> should feel free to laugh, taunt and correct me.
> Celebrating one of the official animals of the area:
> Argent, on a pile inverted sable a horse statent or.
> Celebrating the political ethics of the area:
> Vert, in pale a table argent a hand fesswise couped or.
> Celebrating one of our favorite cusines:
> Chequy guiles and sable a rondel (divided six ways) or (with a) semi
> of rondels guiles.
> Angus Fraser
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