Frequently the advice is given, that if you can t build a wooden box for your cooler, it s sufficient to throw a cloth over your plastic cooler to disguise it.Message 1 of 54 , Jun 30, 2005View SourceFrequently the advice is given, that if you can't build a wooden box
for your cooler, it's sufficient to throw a cloth over your plastic
cooler to disguise it.
Am I the only one to whom this arrangement looks blatently like a
mundane cooler with a cloth thrown over it?
I'm thinking it's the dimentions.
I know there are many pictures of tall (dining-table height) tables
with floor-length cloths on them, but I can't think of one example
of a short chest covered with a floor length cloth. Thick rugs, or
thin cushions, on the *lid* only, for seating, but not what is in
essence a tablecloth. Does anyone here know of any documentation for
This brings me to two branching lines of thought:
1) If indeed, there is no documentation for covering chests (hutches,
boxes, whatever) with floor length cloths, a much better disguise
for a a mundane cooler would be to keep the cooler under a table
covered with a floor length cloth, yes? (Assuming you have a table,
2) Is there any documentation for the use of chests as tables? I know
we do it all the time, but can it be documented? For that matter, is
there any documentation for the existance of short (15-18" from the
floor) tables? It's a royal pain in the [insert portion of anatomy of
your choice] to have to clear everything off the top of a chest with
a hinged lid, to get to the things inside it -- I'm wondering if this
is a documentable use of a chest?
The only pictures that come to my mind, of a grouping of a chair, or
two chairs, with a surface between them, is of a chair, or chairs,
with a table that's about the height of the arms of the chair(s). I
can't think of a picture of a chair or chairs with a low chest
Any thought on these subjects from the list?
A few random thoughts on fish days.... It isn t actually necessary to assume that because today is a Friday in 2005, it corresponds to Friday in 1275 orMessage 54 of 54 , Jul 9, 2005View SourceA few random thoughts on fish days....
It isn't actually necessary to assume that because
today is a Friday in 2005, it corresponds to Friday in
1275 or whatever (in fact, because of the calendar
issues, it probably doesn't....)
When did Saturday become a day of abstinence in the
West? In the early Church, Wednesday and Friday were
the fast days, as they still are in the Orthodox
Church. So whether you abstain from meat on Saturday
depends not only on where in Europe but when.
Was a fast day counted from midnight to midnight, as
now, or from Vespers or sundown the night before?
A pious Christian should not have been attending a
party during Lent (or the Nativity or Pentecost fasts)
anyhow. If he did, though, the hospitality rule would
supercede the fasting: you eat what you are served,
not put the host to extra trouble to accommodate your
fasting. And if you happen to be the host, and others
in your party are not fasting,well, interpretations
vary. Ask your priest. And then too, if you were
travelling the fasting requirements would be relaxed
to some extent.
--- msgilliandurham <msgilliandurham@...> wrote:
>I believe that is correct for Western Europe in later
> Dairy products and eggs, as far as I can figure out,
> were allowed
> on "fish days" except in Lent, and maybe Advent. I'm
> still trying to
> figure that out -- anybody have a good source?
period, based on the recipes for "tarts in Ember Day"
which include eggs and dairy. (Ember days by
definition fall on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.) I
seem also to recall references in cookbooks to "fish
days not in Lent" which imply that eggs and dairy
would be acceptable.
So there are plenty of ways not to fast during events
while being a pious and observant medieval Roman
Catholic. (Or Eastern Orthodox.) If you need to
observe the fasting regulations mundanely, well,
that's beyond the limits of this list, although I
would be interested in discussing it offlist with
anyone who has dealt with the issue.
That said, an authentic Ember Day feast would be a lot
of fun, at least once.
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