Thanks Oleg, yep, you're right we're stuck at 4 cents
Well, two years may not be that short if you
concentrate focus directly on learning that aspect. It
takes longer if you dont directly focus on that aspect
Do you know at any programs that teach about the
American culture ? Can you give me some details.
--- Oleg Shevkun <shevkun@...
> Hello Yoohoo!http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/AcXolB/TM
> Thanks, that was a good one! And, I'd say, two years
> is a very optimistic
> time-frame for mastering the nuances of American
> usage. And I am really not
> sure there are any shortcuts, other than actually
> going to the US and
> deliberately emersing yourself into the culture. Of
> course, there are
> programs that claim to teach these cultural things;
> but that's a long
> American movies, radio and TV can also be very
> helpful. But again, it is
> nice if someone can explain the finer points of the
> language and use to the
> OK, yours $.02 plus my $.02 makes 4 cents. Now,
> that's not even enough to
> buy a stamp, so more input is badly needed!
> Take care,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iAmYooHoo" <iamyoohoo@...>
> To: <AmericanAccentTraining@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:25 AM
> Subject: [AmericanAccentTraining] Conversation in
> "American" is not just
> accent !!
> Hello All,
> I have been following this list for the past couple
> months. I've noticed that a lot of focus on speaking
> "American" has been placed just on accent, which is
> good start but thats not all really - my 2 cents -
> read on.
> English being the language of instruction all my
> (even though it was not my native language),
> speaking/understanding English was never a problem
> me. However, learning or conversing in "American
> English" per se, I've realised is not just about
> speaking or understanding the American Accent.
> recognition/speaking is definately the first part.
> However, once you pass the first hurdle, there are a
> lot more things that you need to learn to be able to
> fluently speak "American".
> Here is what acc. to me comprises learning
> #1) Learning general English (grammer, sentence
> formation et. all)
> #2) Learning and speaking with an American Accent
> course covers it all - its great when you are good
> #3) Really Speaking "American" - details below.
> The first 1, I was good at. The second one was
> relatively easy to accomplish.
> The last one, which not too many people focus on
> directly as much, has a lot to do with the American
> culture and way of life. There are a lot of things
> people in different cultures grow up with. For eg:
> someone may tell you - "Hey, that show was cheesy".
> Well, even if you know english and understand/speak
> the accent, I'm not sure if cheesy is a regularly
> english dictionary word. So if you dont know what
> meant, and if you are not good at guessing, you are
> stuck with no reply.
> There are such a lot of "slangs" that are associated
> with a culture, and there are a lot of other such
> things eg: jokes, games etc. that people in a
> particular culture (eg: american) grow up with.
> really "conversing" in "American" even though you
> good at #1 and #2 is not easy without having a good
> idea of these.
> Question: The only way to accomplish #3 that I've
> so far, has been talking to as many people as
> and focussing on learning that aspect of "American"
> english conversation. But that takes time (a couple
> years maybe). Does anyone know of any other
> such/direct faster resource?. Has anyone else gotten
> that far in their quest..... ???
> Long winded message .. hopefully someone responds :)
> Best Regards,
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