There s a few of us out in California who are interested in reenacting the Puntive Expedition/Border Duty (c. 1911-1917). Last year we attended an event inMessage 1 of 5 , Dec 22 10:58 AMView SourceThere's a few of us out in California who are interested in
reenacting the Puntive Expedition/Border Duty (c. 1911-1917). Last
year we attended an event in Columbus, New Mexico to commemorate the
90th anniversary of Pancho Villa's raid and we're planning on doing
it again this March (around March 9).
I'd definately be interested in possibly doing something in Douglas
and I could probably convince a few others to come along.
--- In AZReenacting@yahoogroups.com, "Old Blue Light"
> Good Morning,
> Troy--- are there any Border Duty / Mexican Revolution era (1910
> re-enactors out there who would be interested in doing a memorialevent in
> Douglas, AZ on the commemoration of the centennial of the BorderDuty / MX
> Revolution? There are several MX Revolutionaries, MX FederalSoldiers and
> American Soldiers of Fortune / Mercernaries / Revolutionaries orwhatever
> you please--- buried in Douglas in un-marked graves and we want tomark the
> graves and have a memorial. We have plenty of time to prapare butthis
> would be a major event for the re-enactor community. many peoplehere on
> both sides of the border are very interested in seeing this happen.worries
> Silas Griffin
> Douglas, AZ
> >From: "Troy Groves" <Troy.Groves@...>
> >Reply-To: AZReenacting@yahoogroups.com
> >To: "AZReenacting" <AZReenacting@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Arizona Reenacting Network] Picacho Peak rail yard stirs
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:57:13 -0700state-owned
> >Picacho Peak rail yard stirs worries
> >By Tony Davis
> >Arizona Daily Star
> >Tucson, Arizona | Published: 11.28.2006
> >PICACHO PEAK - A proposal to build a Union Pacific rail yard on
> >land three miles east of Picacho Peak has stirred concerns.value to
> >Park advocates and neighbors worry that Picacho Peak State Park's
> >wildlife and tourists will disappear behind the rail yard's noise,fumes,
> >lights and potential water pollution.about 90
> >But rail yard supporters say it would provide 290 jobs, including
> >new jobs and 200 relocated from the railroad's Tucson operations.It would
> >serve a rapidly growing state that authorities say needs more railannual
> >Both sides have numbers to point to: Since 1999, the number of
> >visitors to Picacho Peak State Park has jumped 59 percent. In thesame
> >period, the volume of business on Union Pacific Railroad's freightlines in
> >Arizona has shot up 46 percent.to
> >Pinal County's Board of Supervisors will vote Wednesday on whether
> >changeabout a
> >its Comprehensive Land Use Plan to clear the way for the yard.
> >If the proposal is approved, the State Land Department would take
> >year to decide whether to sell more than 1,500 acres to therailroad for
> >585-acre switching yard and extra land for future expansion and a
> >Sun Corridor vision
> >The conflict is not just over a single rail yard, however. It
> >pressures and disputes to come over development between Tucson and
> >as the two urban areas grow closer together.part of a
> >In 35 years, planners expect this area to be fully urbanized, as
> >continuous Sun Corridor of 10 million people stretching fromPrescott to
> >Sierra Vista and Nogales.a
> >Those who support the idea of a rail yard here say it would lie in
> >place to serve the new rail traffic needed to satisfy such a large
> >desires for autos, refrigerators and other shipped goods.right
> >Opponents say the railroad should pick a less sensitive area than
> >to a natural landmark. The peak, which towers over Interstate 10,
> >105,000 visitors last year and nourishes huge spring wildflowercrops when
> >winter rains are plentiful.environmentalists, but
> >Opponents and critics include not only neighbors and
> >the State Parks Board, a top Arizona State Museum official and thePinal
> >County Planning and Zoning Commission, which voted 5-3 torecommend against
> >the idea.around much
> >"Take just a second to look at this view, because it won't be
> >longer," said Ann Hoffman, pointing to a saguaro-covered hillsidein the
> >state park that lies next to Picacho Peak RV Park where she lives.them off.
> >"The saguaros aren't going to last. The diesel fumes will kill
> >It's either going to run the wildlife out of the area or it willkill
> >The rail yard would be built on or very near land that is dotted
> >remains from ancient Hohokam Indian villages. It also lies verynear the
> >historic site of the 1862 Civil War Battle of Picacho Pass, saidJohn
> >Madsen, the Arizona State Museum's associate curator ofarchaeology.
> >data from
> >He hopes the railroad would properly record and recover historic
> >the Hohokam sites if it can't avoid them. But Madsen said heopposes this
> >rail yard site because he believes it will hurt the view of theof its
> >which is on the National Register of Historic Places.
> >Environmental issues
> >The railroad promises the most environmentally friendly operation
> >kind in the country: a switching yard that meets every state andfederal
> >regulation while it moves rail cars from one train to another.groundwater
> >It says it will prevent any spills sending diesel fuel into the
> >by placing collection pans on the site to catch leaks, and that ithas
> >significantly improved its technology over the years to capturediesel air
> >emissions so they don't waft into neighboring areas.somewhere between
> >The state Land Department says a switching yard is needed
> >Tucson and Phoenix not only to handle rail traffic, but also toprovide
> >jobsanywhere that
> >for Pinal County's rapidly growing bedroom communities.
> >"If the thought is that we just don't want any development
> >be seen from Picacho Peak, that's completely unrealistic," said
> >Commissioner Mark Winkleman at a recent meeting of the State ParksBoard,
> >which he sits.
> >"Nobody really probably wants a switching yard in their back yard.
> >wants a sewer treatment plant. Nobody wants a landfill. But youalways have
> >these kinds of uses.through that
> >"This isn't a pristine area. We've got an interstate that runs
> >area that is noisy. I would venture to guess that you've got morediesel
> >trucks going up and down that interstate than you've got trains,"he added.
> >Groundwater concerns
> >The switching yard, lying about six miles north of the Pima-Pinal
> >line, would fill what is now pecan and cotton farms on land thatlongtime
> >area farmer Herb Kai leases from the state.to 250
> >Kai said he has helped the area's water table rise from 400 feet
> >deep since 1995 by putting Central Arizona Project water on his
> >instead of pumping groundwater, but he is concerned that theaquifer will
> >contaminated by leaks from the rail yard.
> >Union Pacific spokesman Mark Davis, however, said that with
> >strict state and federal rules protecting groundwater,contamination is not
> >going to happen.meet Pima
> >To show what he says is the railroad's commitment to environmental
> >compliance, Winkleman pointed out that the company has agreed to
> >County's strict light pollution law even though the yard would liein
> >another county.water.' Well,
> >"People are using scare tactics like 'it's going to ruin the
> >that's why we have agencies to regulate this sort of thing,"Winkleman
> >said.train to
> >Two-mile-long site
> >The site would be two miles long and shift rail cars from one
> >another, to send them to the city or town for which the trains arebound.
> >Operating with 36 main tracks and a handful of support tracks, theyard
> >would handle rail traffic from within the Southwest and across thenation.
> >Winkleman referred directly to the Sun Corridor concept at theparks board
> >meeting in trying to persuade fellow board members not to rejectthe
> >proposal out of hand. The board voted last month to oppose therail yard
> >plan for now because no studies have been done on its effects. Itdid not
> >flatly oppose the project, however.the
> >"Pinal County is in a terrible situation right now because they are
> >essentially bedroom communities to Phoenix and Tucson," the land
> >commissioner said. "Anyone who has tried to drive I-10 or any of
> >roadways up there knows the terrible traffic and pollutionproblems. One of
> >the solutions is not to have people have to drive all the way toTucson or
> >all the way to Phoenix to work, and to have an employment base."for
> >Currently, the state has a capacity crisis - not enough switching
> >to accommodate all the railroad traffic needed to ship goods bound
> >Arizona, he said. Gov. Janet Napolitano has formed a committee todeal with
> >this problem, he said.several
> >Cheapest alternative
> >The company chose this site after an extensive search and rejected
> >other sites because they lie close to schools or homes or haveirrigation
> >canals running through them, said Davis, a Union Pacific spokesmanin
> >Neb. The land's flatness â"caused partially by its being leveled
> >farming â" was also an attraction, he said.go out
> >"That's the cheapest alternative for them" otherwise they have to
> >andAnable, a
> >deal with washes and level the land at high cost," said Mike
> >former state land commissioner who is working as a consultant forKai. But
> >he added, "I really don't think that is a good reason to spoil thepeak."
> >On StarNet: Star reporter Tony Davis narrates a mini-documentaryon the
> >topic at www.azstarnet.com/videoLive
> >Contact reporter Tony Davis at 806-7746 or tdavis@...
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Dear Arizona Re-enactors and all other historical Re-enactors. Come One, Come All! Nov. 10, 2010 will initiate a series of events along the US / MX border toMessage 1 of 5 , Mar 23, 2009View SourceDear Arizona Re-enactors and all other historical Re-enactors.
Come One, Come All!
Nov. 10, 2010 will initiate a series of events along the US / MX border to celebrate and commemorate the Mexican Revolution centennial. My introduction:
I am a History teacher, Historian, and Historical re-enactor here at Douglas, Arizona living and working here at Douglas, AZ. I have documented several Americans who were Soldiers of Fortune or Insurrectos that participated in the Mexican Revolution buried in Douglas and elswhere. Also, several Mexican Revolutionaries and Mexican Federal Soldiers are buried here and elswhere. Almost all are in unmarked graves and I am working on this project in conjunction with the City of Douglas, City of Agua Prieta, Sonora and the state governments of Sonora and Arizona- to mark the graves and conduct a memorial ceremony for these men. I will speak with the new governor of Sonora about this matter when convenient afte the upcoming election in June.
In order to properly celebrate the series of events that are still in the planning stages with officials, historians, and other interested parties, we will need to involve the historical reenactment community to help in these events to include parades, re-enactments, and ceremonies. This will be in late 2010 and into the spring of 2011 and likely beyond that for specific events connected to historic dates as relevant to Douglas / A.P., Naco / Naco, Nogales & Nogales. We will need period impressions from 1910 to 1920 in terms of civilian and military representations. Both sides of the border and all branches of the military including the Buffalo Soldiers-- of course. Bi-lingual abilities are great but not a pre-requisite for participation.
Please coordinate with myself if you are interested. A War Between the States muzzle loading cannon will be needed to represent the "Blue Whistler" and any type of cannon / howitzer from the Border Duty time frame. Blank volleys from rifles and larger calibers will be needed for memorial ceremonies and any other "noisy" events.
Please consider participating for the sake of history, statehood and the fun of it all. We could even do camps and marches.
234 E Madrid Street
Douglas, AZ 85607
(520)-364-2447 Xt 2183 after 2 PM at work
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