Since I think I can safely say I've watched more of Nazr than anyone
else (who says watching the Hawks doesn't have it's benefits?):
-- Yes, outstanding rebounder. Good hands, great instincts for where
it's coming off, especially at offensive end.
-- Short for a center and not a leaper, so he has trouble finishing
around the basket
-- Can make a 12-foot jumper but it's not a strength.
-- Zero shot-blocking, but he'll put a body on guys.
Overall, I think Doleac was having just as good a year and probably
had more defensive value, and there's no freaking way that Thomas is
better than Van Horn, so I'm bewildered.
--- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com
> --- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, sultanoswat@y... wrote:
> > >
> > > T.Thomas 14,07
> > > J.Pryzbilla 8,02
> > > K.V.Horn 16,09
> > > M.Doleac 14,47
> > > N.Mohammed 14,33
> > --
> > Just curious where you get these numbers from.
> > --
> > As a Knick fan, I can't say I'm happy with this trade. Van Horn
> > certainly the best player of the group. Isaiah traded him for
> > been dubbed on some boards "Van Horn-lite." They both have
> > the same skill set, except replace Van Horn's rebounding with
> > Thomas' "athleticism". (Yes there are other differences, namely
> > scoring & turnovers.) I don't expect Tim Thomas to suddenly
> > playing better, although he's only 26 years old (for another
> > of days), so a positive change isn't out of the realm of
> > When asked by the media, Isaiah said he really wanted Nazr and
> > wouldn't have done the deal without him. I can only speculate
> > wanted Nazr. Mohammed certainly is a good rebounder, but he
> > hasn't gotten enough playing time to say anything else about
> > He's only 26 years old as well, so he may develop into a decent
> > starting C. Atlanta is going to release Doleac, so if the Knicks
> > resign him maybe Isaiah thinks he got a free big man out of it.
> > Another possibility is that Zeke is going to trade Deke or
> > and feels Nazr has enough upside to start for the Knicks.
> > It's not a horrible trade for the Knicks. Usually I don't like
> > on the tail end of a trade where my team trades away the best
> > in the deal. However if Nazr can develop into a decent player
> > rebounds really well, the Knicks will have helped themselves out
> > this one.
> > Mike
> Well, those numbers are obtained from the players stats. There are
> lot of formulas that try to rate players according to their stats
> (most are better than mine too). It's pretty useful when you try to
> compare guys with different skills, different min/gm, etc. and you
> to see which may be worth more. I think we agree on this trade. Not
> terrible, but the key is future Nazr production.