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, bchaikin@a... wrote:
> talking about lebron james:
> If he somehow turns out to be less than awesome (Isaiah Rider)....
> if you read lenny wilkens' autobiography ("Unguarded",
> get a 1st hand perspective of what it was like to have to coach
> in a word - unpleasant. selfish, certainly not team oriented, no
> hard worker, but strictly for his own personal goals and not those
of the team,
> and not one to take instruction let alone direction from a coach.
> have seen and/or heard about lebron to date is just the opposite.
> (at least from the cavaliers' perspective) that's the case...
Let's hope from everyone's perspective that's the case. Paul Silas
was probably a good hire there, but I dunno for sure.
> i sure hope you're right but in all honesty i think you're
As you pointed out, they have some good talent there.
What also appears to have happened is that they tanked a lot of the
They have several prominent young players who are likely to get
better, including Boozer, Davis, Miles (whose season was a HUGE
dropoff from his Clipper days), and (maybe) Wagner.
> talking about a team that won all of 17 games last year and got
outscored by a
> huge 9.6 points per game, by far the worst point differential in
> last year and also the worst point differential in the league by a
team in six
> seasons (since the 97-98 nuggets). add to that the fact that the
> won more than 32 games in the last 4 years, and have consecutively
> games each season in these past four seasons (32, 30, 29, and 17).
Not a sustainable pattern.
> if they won 30
> games in 03-04 i'd be happy, 35 and i'd be ecstatic. anything
> that would be gravy.
Dumb luck gets them to a 25 win season. Not sure what the over/under
will be on the Cavs this coming year, but if it's 25, I take the over.
> i don't think there's any chance a 19 year old kid could
> have the same effect on a pro team like a larry bird or david
robinson - someone
> who could turn a team completely around. those two had far more
> under their respective belts...
Look at the comparisons, though, between Bird's Boston team and
Robinson's Spurs team. You've pointed them out yourself. A series
of ever worsening years, some decent young and old talent. I'll note
also that the teams also got new coaches around that time (not a
surprise with ever worsening teams). I'll note that the defenses on
those teams before the arrival of the saviors were horrible, at their
peak worst right before the arrival (Cleveland was pretty equally bad
in '02 and '03, however). I also wouldn't doubt that the Cavs trade
one of their young guys with potential to get an older guy who helps
> i'm guessing they'll slip james right into the small forward spot
> plain leave him there, alongside ilgauskas, boozer, ricky davis,
and god know
> who at pg, maybe wagner (the rumor here is they are looking to
acquire a veteran
> pg for 25-30 min/g to ease any ball-handling responsibilities to
...like I said...
> with ilgauskas and davis being looked upon for scoring, boozer for
> and rebounding, and hopefully a point guard no worse than henry
bibby in his
> prime, james should be able to progress on his own and not be
looked upon to
> take over games in his rookie year. hopefully he'll have his
I don't know James all that well. I didn't see him as much on TV as
others. What I saw was exceptional. But, more relevantly for the
Cavs, what I see in their numbers, in the pattern of the season, is a
team that should not have been so bad last year and is primed to get
better with a small infusion of talent. They are getting a big
infusion of talent.
So who in the East is going to take the dive as a result? Haven't
thought through that yet. If it's New Orleans, though, look for
Silas to get a few votes for Coach of the Year even though he has