Fred, Pat and all,
Thanks for the interesting mode summary from your logs in 2010, very interesting...thank you! Any more of these are sure welcome.
As far as 'different and uncommon' operators..humm I mean modes (lol) we have a few intersted in that here in NA and usually on the weekends 30m is more active here in NA and you might find many different digital modes being used on the 30m band from 10.132 to 10.145..most using RSID to better the chances of contacts in these modes, and it sure works! Lots of fun experimenting with these or looking for the other unusal modes too.
I was reading the mail on a 30m PSK QSO and one of the ops was stating to the other that was a fairly new 30m PSK user of the band that 'don't just look for PSK signals on 30m because 30m is a great band and has good digital ops that you will find many different digital modes so make sure to look for different modes that are being used on the 30m band'...I think this is very true.
30m might not be as active as other bands but the activity is usually always intersting all the same.
Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001
--- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "dl6xaz" <dl6xaz@...> wrote:
> My pleasure John,
> as for your magloop, I still got a 1.3m from the late Kaeferlein which has served me well, no doubt, but which at present is retired in the garden shed. Any vertical performs better on 30m in my case. This may be due to my location. I tried all possible alternatives like Windom, dipole. inverted-L, but finally kept the L/4 homemade one. But for you the magloop may be just the right one. The height above ground is irrelevant for this aerial type; you can even use it successfully from inside a wooden garden shed.
> Just today I worked a K0 from Nebraska with 25W, getting a -11 back, which makes me think that we could have done the contact with 10W or less on 20m. Yes, the occasional more power may help in establishing the QSO, although in the end it may not be required. Pse consider that some stns "enjoy" dreadful local QRM and QRN levels which - as I myself experienced - can go up to S7-8 constantly. When I eliminated all available walmarts and cheap PSUs, substituting the 12VDC supply by a central unit, suddenly I could work JT65 with receptions down to -26dB.
> Finally, whenever possible pse use the TX-RSID for less common modes (not for psk, rtty, jt65 though as they should be known to all hams), facilitating the identification for those not familiar with certain sounds. You might have more success in getting a QSO into the log this way.
> Have a good one
> vy73 Fred DL6XAZ
> --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "John M" <vk2fak@> wrote:
> > Hi all..
> > Thanks for the great reply Fred....I see you usually work jt65 at around 20w.....I try first at 15w...but wont go above 20w.
> > As far as those other modes go...I think I may be running to little power to make the distance...usually trying 15w....I might try upping to power and see what happens....just using a 1.8m magloop, with a max height of about 3m off the ground....works the world on Jt65 now for some other modes..
> > John
> > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "dl6xaz" <dl6xaz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John, and happy new year.
> > > My setup is quite simple, for years already, and absolutely not top of the notch: FT2000 or FT897D, usually running at 30-40W; the aerial is a homemade vertical - two parts graciously engineered by Paul G0UZP - of about L/4 = 7.5m sitting on my steel balcony rail on 1st floor, about 7m abv street level in a completely flat landscape at 37m a.s.l.
> > > It does not have any radials due to the metal mass it sits on, and ofc I have to tune it with a Palstar ATU. Caseneed I can add an old tubes Ameritron AL811 but only when indispensable for a certain dx contact, with some 100W (I think it would raise the white flag if I pushed it more...)
> > > Interface is a navigator, software usually fldigi, but occasionally those programs previously mentioned.
> > > For JT65 I use no more than 30W, trying to keep it lower than 20W, having had QSOs with JA with 5W. Or this morning at 1000z when VK3XQ came back to my CQ with 20W giving me a -6dB. Possibly we could have done it with QRP as well.
> > > It is hard to tell how much time and patience you will need until you get someone coming back to CQs in fuzzy modes. Thankfully I am retired and having some hours per day I can sit at the radio. I had immediately replies when I least counted on them (e.g. MT63-500 or Hell80), and I called for hours in Contestia, MFSK or Thor with no takers despite an open band. Habitually I hang around 10.1435 (usb, dial) to steer clear of the bpsk chaps, but to stay in the vicinity of their bandpass so they can hear my tx-rsid and signal.
> > > All you need is patience, lots of it! You have to familiarize yourself with propagation patterns (e.g. grey line). And you have to dial around and listen for unusual signals, trying to identify them. If you wish to familiarize yourself with certain sounds and waterfalls aspects I can recommend, amongst other sources, this page:
> > > http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.20/Modes/index.htm
> > > Just this morning I heard an odd one which was quickly recognized: MFSK32, OE3EPW cqing on 10.143, allowing for a short chat.
> > > Please also bear in mind that some hams are using software which does not identify rsid, like MixW. Other programs do not receive mfsk pictures, like Logger32. Then e.g. fldigi permits speeds in Thor and Domino which are not resolved by HRD-DM780. And Multipsk permits modes which no other program disposes of. Summarizing: the rarer the mode, the lesser the chance to get a reply.
> > > Looking back on about 3-4 years of more intense activity on 30m, I can affirm that in nearly every European country you will find the one or other ham able and willing to use uncommon modes. Just as examples: UT5UBB, F1ABL, G0UZP, ES1HJ, OE3EPW, IK4IDF etc., and you will have seen on this reflector that similarly our American friends have intensified their efforts to activate uncommon modes.
> > > Hoping to meet you on air soon,
> > > vy73 and best wishes for 2011
> > > Fred DL6XAZ #988