A good account of the "The Tribes and Customs of Hy-Many, commonly called O'Kelly's Country" is given in the Book of Lecan (1418).
Hy-Many corresponds roughly to the diosese of Clonfert where my Corcoran ancestors came from (as well as Fermanagh).
One of the ancient Corcorans was Abbot of the Monastry in Kilcullen, Co. Kildare (548).
M548.4 St. Mac Tail of Cill Cuilinn (i.e. Eoghan, son of Corcran), died on the eleventh day of the month of June
--- In 1113Combo@yahoogroups.com, "mikewww7" <mwwdna@...> wrote:
> One of the hard to place families in the 11-13 Combo group is the Kelly's. There are more than one Kelly family in the 11-3 Combo group so that can be confusing in and of itself. The one I'm describing here I will call the Kelly's of County Kildare, Ireland because seems to be where there oldest known ancestor is from.
> If you look at the project web site you'll see the Most Distant Known Ancestor:
> Walter Kelly, b.c.1730, Timahoe, Kildare, Ireland
> At the Kelly DNA web site, this is stated about him: "Walter Kelly came from Timahoe, County Kildare, Ireland in 1754, to the Quaker community between the Wateree and Lynch's Rivers in Craven Co., SC."
> Beyond the two Kelly's from this family group that are in the 11-13 project, there are several more in other projects that fit in as 11-13 Kelly of Kildare folks. I'm adding those the spreadsheet I'll post under the "Files" section.
> The Kelly DNA project has this family group as the last "yellow" group:
> On the internet, I've read that Kelly/Kelley loosely means "descendant of war," from the ancient Irish name "O'Ceallaigh." It is the second most common surname in Ireland.
> I dug up a little history on Kildare County from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_County_Kildare
> The estimated date for the abandonment of the sacred pre-Christian site of Knockaulin/ Dún Áilinne is 400 AD, the traditional date for foundation of the monastery at Cill Dara is 490 AD.
> In 833 Vikings raided Kildare monastery for first of sixteen times
> In 1132 Kildare monastery was destroyed by Diarmait Mac Murchada /Diarmait MacMurrough, King of Laighin
> In 1170, Diarmait Mac Murcada's Norman allies led by Strongbow divided Kildare amongst themselves: the Barony of Carbury to Meyler FitzHenry, Naas Offalia to Maurice Fitzgerald, Norragh to Robert FitzHereford and Salt (Saltus salmonus Salmon Leap) to Adam FitzHereford.
> George Kelly put me in touch with a Matt Kelly in Dublin, Ireland. Matt does genealogical research and is keenly interested. Matt wrote:
> "Hallo again Mchael. I have been mulling over what you state in your e-mail to me and for reasons which will become a little clearer further on anything to do with the Kellys of Kildare is of particular interest to me. George Kelly sent me the list of all the names associated with your study and much to my surprise I could not relate to any of them even though my father, g/father, gg/father and ggg/father all came from Coughlandstown in the Ballymore Eustace area which is south of Naas.
> You might find some details of marginal interest;
> 1] ggg/father------most likely John Kelly born circa 1780
> 2] gg/father------Matthew Kelly born 1806 in Couny Kildare, married Catherine Brien 28/11/1843 and died 16/09/1884. I believe that Catherine's gather's name was Richard and that both he and Matthew were working for John La Touch of Harristown House [ which is still standing and occupied ]. According to Griffith's valuation they were both renting a cottage from La Touch in the mid 1800's. The La Touch family was of Huegenot orign and were large estates owners and very involved in establishing the Bank of Ireland in the late 1700's
> A man I met at the last Kelly Clan gathering in Ballinasloe in County Galway last May and who is was from County Tipperary was of the view that the Kellys came to Eastern and Southern Ireland from County Galway.....
> Matt is not directly related to our 11-13 Kelly's but since they are from County Kildare we were just looking for clues.
> Any thoughts? I did a comparison of the Kelly of Kildare Y-DNA and I'll add that to later post because that is long of itself. They are in Group A but they are not L139+ like A-1 is.