Thanks for the info everyone. Some good information.

I was really hoping to find illustrations or pictures that show where and why
certain signals/signs were placed at certain locations. I know that certain
types and styles of signals were used on certain railroads but not others. I
want to model a freelanced prototype layout but try to be correct in the
mechanical and operational aspects. Trying to find out the colors of ballast
used in what location (for GN, NP, SP&S and BN) has been difficult enough! : )
I'm too much of a perfectionist I guess.

Second, Yeah, . . . I knew those 1K locos were out there but I will let the
deeper pockets play with those. There is no way I could justify paying that much
for a model train. If they halved the price I would be tempted. Too bad that
other compnay went out of business. Anyone know how to get a hold of the casts
for the shells? : ) I smell a business opportunity!

Eric

The Searails heavy pacific shell looked good only on the outside. The screw hole
was much too large for the screw to hold and the inside needs to be milled to
clear the inner frame.
Allan

--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Kent Cleaveland  wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
>   Eric inquired about shells for a steam engine that might go on a Marklin
motive unit.  SeaRails did a Z scale brass steam shell.  Not sure what chassis
it was designed to fit, but it looked OK.
>
> CheerZ,
>  -- Malcolm Z
> MCZ Models
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Loren, Ed, Everybody,

Great news. The final iteration of the GP38-2 Handrails & Super-details,
kit #1201, is being manufactured next Monday thru Friday and will ship to us by
the
first week of Feb. 2013. From here I will then start shipping to all purchasers
and dealers. Also, the instructions are now complete and are ready for
packaging.
MSRP is $23.88

Manufacturing stainless requires more time to cure & etch than brass
and we had to make important design adjustments until the parts met
my exact design parameters. Sorry it took a little longer than I anticipated.

There is also another big surprise waiting in the wings --- also made
of stainless steel. But that rabbit wont come out of the hat until he's darn
good and ready!

regardZ to all !

Reynard
http://www.micronart.com


On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Edward Scullin wrote:

> I'll second the motion.Ed Scullin
>
> --- On Fri, 1/25/13, Loren Snyder ljsnyder@...> wrote:
>
> From: Loren Snyder ljsnyder@...>
> Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Signals and placement and 1 more Q.
> To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 7:15 AM
>
>
>
> Hi Reynard,
>
> What's the news regarding the detailing kits for the AZL GP 38s? Almost
>
> ready?
>
> Loren
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Reynard Wellman
>
> Date: 1/25/2013 6:23:21 AM
>
> To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Signals and placement and 1 more Q.
>
> Hello Eric,
>
> We make two types of (non-electrical) RR track signal kits:
>
> http://www.micronart.com/1024_triple_searchlight.html
>
> http://www.micronart.com/1022_double_searchlight.html
>
> These use Swarovski™ colored crystals to simulate lighted signals.
>
> Here is an article on railroad signals that may be of interest to you:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_railroad_signals
>
> Feel free to ask any questions. Thank you.
>
> Reynard Wellman
>
> http://www.micronart.com
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, proverbs30789 wrote:
>
> > Hey all!
>
> >
>
> > It has been quite a while since I posted anything. I was wondering if
>
> anyone knows of a publication that would show what types of signals would be
>
> used trackside and where they would be placed. I would love to add some Z
>
> scale signals to my layout but I am completely lost. If it helps, I am
>
> modeling GN, NP, SP&S and BN.
>
> >
>
> > Second question:
>
> >
>
> > I recently saw some American steam shells for sale on E-Bay that use
>
> Marklin guts. I know that republiclocomotiveworks.com use to carry some.
>
> Anyone have any idea where a 0-6-0, 0-8-0 or any other Z scale steam shells
>
> could be found?
>
> >
>
> > Thanks!
>
> >
>
> > Eric
>
> >
>
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Z-scale: minimum siZe, MAXIMUM enjoyment!
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Great news Reynard,

Just one more question.  Can we order direct from you or do we need to go
through dealers?  Any price difference?

Loren




-------Original Message-------

From: Reynard Wellman
Date: 1/25/2013 5:35:22 PM
To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ZScaleYardSale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Z_Scale] GP38 Handrails, etc.

Hi Loren, Ed, Everybody,

Great news. The final iteration of the GP38-2 Handrails & Super-details,
kit #1201, is being manufactured next Monday thru Friday and will ship to us
by the
first week of Feb. 2013. From here I will then start shipping to all
purchasers
and dealers. Also, the instructions are now complete and are ready for
packaging.
MSRP is $23.88

Manufacturing stainless requires more time to cure & etch than brass
and we had to make important design adjustments until the parts met
my exact design parameters. Sorry it took a little longer than I anticipated


There is also another big surprise waiting in the wings --- also made
of stainless steel. But that rabbit wont come out of the hat until he's darn
good and ready!

regardZ to all !

Reynard
http://www.micronart.com



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Hi Loren,
Sure, you can order direct. There is a link.
http://www.micronart.com/1038gp.html
But our dealers are the only one's allowed to discount.
I can not undercut my dealers -- ever!

regardZ,
Reynard
On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Loren Snyder wrote:

> Great news Reynard,
>
> Just one more question. Can we order direct from you or do we need to go
> through dealers? Any price difference?
>
> Loren
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Reynard Wellman
> Date: 1/25/2013 5:35:22 PM
> To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: ZScaleYardSale@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Z_Scale] GP38 Handrails, etc.
>
> Hi Loren, Ed, Everybody,
>
> Great news. The final iteration of the GP38-2 Handrails & Super-details,
> kit #1201, is being manufactured next Monday thru Friday and will ship to us
> by the
> first week of Feb. 2013. From here I will then start shipping to all
> purchasers
> and dealers. Also, the instructions are now complete and are ready for
> packaging.
> MSRP is $23.88
>
> Manufacturing stainless requires more time to cure & etch than brass
> and we had to make important design adjustments until the parts met
> my exact design parameters. Sorry it took a little longer than I anticipated
>
>
> There is also another big surprise waiting in the wings --- also made
> of stainless steel. But that rabbit wont come out of the hat until he's darn
> good and ready!
>
> regardZ to all !
>
> Reynard
> http://www.micronart.com
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Understood,  I just didn't know what the situation was.  I'm happy to order
from Anthony, a great dealer by anyone's measure.

Looking forward to getting four sets as I have four undecs just begging to
be custom detailed and painted into two CORP for me and two ARR for Karin.

Best regards,
Loren




-------Original Message-------

From: Reynard Wellman
Date: 1/25/2013 5:48:55 PM
To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] GP38 Handrails, etc.

Hi Loren,
Sure, you can order direct. There is a link.
http://www.micronart.com/1038gp.html
But our dealers are the only one's allowed to discount.
I can not undercut my dealers -- ever!

regardZ,
Reynard
On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Loren Snyder wrote:


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Is there a low lantern available that could be used to indicate the routing
alignment of a double slip switch (like the Marklin 5128 HO double slip switches
has)?

Marty

Eric,
      Then you might want to check out a Model Railroader article from Feb 1986
on CMRI (computer interface). Not to sound like an advertisement, but you might
want to look into the MR DVD archive. The interface isn't great, but I've found
that at some time or another all questions have been  answered.
      For getting ballast colors, tie spacing and overall right of way
characteristics, I found Google Earth to be very useful.
      Nothing wrong with being a bit of a perfectionist...just as long as it
doesn't interfere with running the trains.

Mark

--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, "proverbs30789"  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info everyone. Some good information.
>
> I was really hoping to find illustrations or pictures that show where and why
certain signals/signs were placed at certain locations. I know that certain
types and styles of signals were used on certain railroads but not others. I
want to model a freelanced prototype layout but try to be correct in the
mechanical and operational aspects. Trying to find out the colors of ballast
used in what location (for GN, NP, SP&S and BN) has been difficult enough! : )
I'm too much of a perfectionist I guess.
>
> Second, Yeah, . . . I knew those 1K locos were out there but I will let the
deeper pockets play with those. There is no way I could justify paying that much
for a model train. If they halved the price I would be tempted. Too bad that
other compnay went out of business. Anyone know how to get a hold of the casts
for the shells? : ) I smell a business opportunity!
>
> Eric
>

Hi Marty,all,
                  For what railroad?

Best,Kev

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM, holdthefort57 <mmbless@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Is there a low lantern available that could be used to indicate the
> routing alignment of a double slip switch (like the Marklin 5128 HO double
> slip switches has)?
>
> Marty
>
>
>



--
Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service


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 IF you want to do a model railroad that is a "freelance prototype" , there are
a few things to consider.
Its
  great to do research on what type of ballast and signals  was on the
right of way, but before you get down in the weeds (literally) there are
  a few things to hash out first.
 I see that you mention steam and
BN. What era do you plan on doing? If you are doing steam, is it going
to be regular service or some special rail fan excursion? I am doing
transitional era and trying to do it as close as I can get to the real
railroad, but I will fudge it a few years here and there in order to run
  steam and keep the facilities (coal chutes, water tanks, ect) 
Different RRs went diesel at different times, but pretty much between
1950 and 1960 will put you in the ballpark.Try to get your rolling stock
  and engines
  to match the time period you want, Paint schemes, running boards,( or
lack of ) types of caboose reflect the time period. If you are starting
out find a time period and try to stick with it, otherwise you have a
jumble of equipment that you spent money on, that you could use for
something better that pops up. BN had no steam.
You might want to do
some research on the railroads you mentioned, see if they have
historical societies that have data they could share. There are usually
people in those societies that model too. I have gotten information such
  as track charts, that show what was used as ballast and when it was
changed. Mine was cinders/slag and later parts were gravel, and as it is
  a coal route there would be coal and coal dust everywhere.
Digging
around you could see what kind of signals, or even if they used signals
at all. I know signals are gee whiz and cool on a model layout but can
get expensive very fast, and if they are really not
  needed, the money could be used for engines and rolling stock.
The
more you dig around and do research on the real railroads, the more fun
it can be with your models. You dont have to be a rivet counter, but you
  can run a pretty good little railroad just as good as the HO and N guys
  in Z



 
GVSTATVS SIMILIS PVLLVS !
Kelley Wright

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 1902  5 workers killed on explosion during IRT subway construction (New York
City NY)

1948  1st locomotive to carry 1,000,000 pounds (450,000 kg) operates

1971  Montgomery St Station, last link in BART, `holed thru'

Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
o o o o o o o . . .   ______________________________
o      _____           ||                            |
.][__n_n_|DD[  ====_____  |                                 |
>(________|__|_[_________]_|____________________________|
_/oo OOOOO oo`  ooo   ooo  'o!o!o                  o!o!o`
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

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I've been assigned to clean up a friend's Marklin starter set, vintage 1978, and
build a small railroad for it. I've worked extensively with N scale, but this is
my first experience with Z. Right now I'm having two issues with the 0-6-0T
locomotive:

1) I found zscale.org's excellent revival page, which alerted me to the
spring-loaded pin holding the back of the shell on. I released it, but the front
of the shell seems stuck on the tab under the boiler front, and I'm reluctant to
force it too hard, lest I snap something off. Is there a trick to this?

2) I proceeded to remove the bottom cover plate and clean some fibers out of the
gear train. All went well until I dropped one of the screws. An exhaustive sweep
of the floor with flashlight, fingers, and magnet was fruitless. (Damn.) What is
the easist source for a replacement? Is there a stock item from Walthers that
fits?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--Jeff

> 2) I proceeded to remove the bottom cover plate and clean some fibers out of
the gear train. All went well until I dropped one of the screws. An exhaustive
sweep of the floor with flashlight, fingers, and magnet was fruitless. (Damn.)
What is the easist source for a replacement? Is there a stock item from Walthers
that fits?

Check in the loco - they sometimes "fall" into the motor/magnet instead 8)

Alan

Hi all,
         Yes Alan this has happened to me too.Where did that *&^%$ go??? :-)
Hand knees,flashlights,is stuck to my shoe? LOL!
Two tips for the work bench,does not work for the dinning room table!
Paint the floor white,makes finding  small parts much easier.
Old jewelers trick; this is apron Velcro to the underneath of the work
bench,catches some parts in the apron.
Now Jeff,if you can't find the parts,do NOT ask Wathlers!Märklin also
changed it's spare parts policy,Ask a dealers if he willing to ship,....one
screw,maybe,...
I have very small screws,however that are not metric :-(

Kev

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Alan Cox <alan@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> > 2) I proceeded to remove the bottom cover plate and clean some fibers
> out of the gear train. All went well until I dropped one of the screws. An
> exhaustive sweep of the floor with flashlight, fingers, and magnet was
> fruitless. (Damn.) What is the easist source for a replacement? Is there a
> stock item from Walthers that fits?
>
> Check in the loco - they sometimes "fall" into the motor/magnet instead 8)
>
> Alan
>
>
>



--
Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service


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Hi Ft. Dewey,

I worked for the sub-contractors to Westinghouse who
installed the entire electrical system for BART. Walked
through, measured and surveyed most of the stations,
tunnels and aerial facilities. BART track is not standard
gauge, it is a wider gauge (as I recall, 5' 2") for high speed
curves and comfort. The system passes through two major
faults; the San Andreas Fault and the Hayward Fault.
Clever flexible joints in the tunnels and track design allow
for an up to 6' displacement of the earth along each fault
line without too much damage for getting the system up
and running again.

Most of the SF major stations are deep underground. The
Montgomery Station is three stories below Market Street.
(And people wondered why it took 8 billion dollars
to complete the system !! ;>)

Cheers!
Reynard

On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:54 PM, FT. Dewey wrote:

>  1902 5 workers killed on explosion during IRT subway construction (New York
City NY)
>
> 1948 1st locomotive to carry 1,000,000 pounds (450,000 kg) operates
>
> 1971 Montgomery St Station, last link in BART, `holed thru'
>
> Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
> o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________
> o _____ || |
> .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | |
> >(________|__|_[_________]_|____________________________|
> _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o`
> -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Reynard

What was the original bid vs the 8 billion expense?

...don


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Reynard Wellman <micron@...>wrote:

> Hi Ft. Dewey,
>
> I worked for the sub-contractors to Westinghouse who
> installed the entire electrical system for BART. Walked
> through, measured and surveyed most of the stations,
> tunnels and aerial facilities. BART track is not standard
> gauge, it is a wider gauge (as I recall, 5' 2") for high speed
> curves and comfort. The system passes through two major
> faults; the San Andreas Fault and the Hayward Fault.
> Clever flexible joints in the tunnels and track design allow
> for an up to 6' displacement of the earth along each fault
> line without too much damage for getting the system up
> and running again.
>
> Most of the SF major stations are deep underground. The
> Montgomery Station is three stories below Market Street.
> (And people wondered why it took 8 billion dollars
> to complete the system !! ;>)
>
> Cheers!
> Reynard
>
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:54 PM, FT. Dewey wrote:
>
> >  1902 5 workers killed on explosion during IRT subway construction (New
> York City NY)
> >
> > 1948 1st locomotive to carry 1,000,000 pounds (450,000 kg) operates
> >
> > 1971 Montgomery St Station, last link in BART, `holed thru'
> >
> > Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
> > o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________
> > o _____ || |
> > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | |
> > >(________|__|_[_________]_|____________________________|
> > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o`
> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Z-scale:  minimum siZe, MAXIMUM enjoyment!
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
*...don a * * **- Northern Ohio, USA*


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Hi Don,

4 to 6 B. At the time that was the amount projected for the East Bay
to San Francisco service. But as time went by, other cities (South Bay)
wanted in on the action... soo... that costs money! Right of way, etc.

Reynard

On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Don Avila wrote:

> Reynard
>
> What was the original bid vs the 8 billion expense?
>
> ...don
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Reynard Wellman micron@...>wrote:
>
> > Hi Ft. Dewey,
> >
> > I worked for the sub-contractors to Westinghouse who
> > installed the entire electrical system for BART. Walked
> > through, measured and surveyed most of the stations,
> > tunnels and aerial facilities. BART track is not standard
> > gauge, it is a wider gauge (as I recall, 5' 2") for high speed
> > curves and comfort. The system passes through two major
> > faults; the San Andreas Fault and the Hayward Fault.
> > Clever flexible joints in the tunnels and track design allow
> > for an up to 6' displacement of the earth along each fault
> > line without too much damage for getting the system up
> > and running again.
> >
> > Most of the SF major stations are deep underground. The
> > Montgomery Station is three stories below Market Street.
> > (And people wondered why it took 8 billion dollars
> > to complete the system !! ;>)
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Reynard
> >
> EDITED FOR LENGTH
> > >
> > > 1971 Montgomery St Station, last link in BART, `holed thru'
> > >
> > > Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
> > > o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________
> > > o _____ || |
> > > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | |
> > > >(________|__|_[_________]_|____________________________|
> > > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o`
> > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Z-scale: minimum siZe, MAXIMUM enjoyment!
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> *...don a * * **- Northern Ohio, USA*
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Hi Kevin,

For the German railroads; the function would be like the HO version, indicating
the double slip switch alignment.

Marty

--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brady  wrote:
>
> Hi Marty,all,
>                  For what railroad?
>
> Best,Kev
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM, holdthefort57  wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Is there a low lantern available that could be used to indicate the
> > routing alignment of a double slip switch (like the Marklin 5128 HO double
> > slip switches has)?
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'll take a look, but I'm pretty sure it didn't...I saw and heard the screw
bounce off the desk top, then over the edge. (I checked my shoes and socks,
too.)

--Jeff


--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Alan Cox  wrote:
>
> > 2) I proceeded to remove the bottom cover plate and clean some fibers out of
the gear train. All went well until I dropped one of the screws. An exhaustive
sweep of the floor with flashlight, fingers, and magnet was fruitless. (Damn.)
What is the easist source for a replacement? Is there a stock item from Walthers
that fits?
>
> Check in the loco - they sometimes "fall" into the motor/magnet instead 8)
>
> Alan
>

Mother always said; "work smart.......not hard"

Take a piece of steel, ruler etc., flat bar..............throw some magnets onto
it................now hover over the area that you think the lost screw is, you
should pick it up quickly.

If you need it brought back to life and a new screw, contact me.




Don





-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Faust <jfaust42@...>
To: z_scale <z_scale@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 8:03 pm
Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Seeking assistance with Marklin #8800 loco





I'll take a look, but I'm pretty sure it didn't...I saw and heard the screw
bounce off the desk top, then over the edge. (I checked my shoes and socks,
too.)

--Jeff

--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Alan Cox  wrote:
>
> > 2) I proceeded to remove the bottom cover plate and clean some fibers out of
the gear train. All went well until I dropped one of the screws. An exhaustive
sweep of the floor with flashlight, fingers, and magnet was fruitless. (Damn.)
What is the easist source for a replacement? Is there a stock item from Walthers
that fits?
>
> Check in the loco - they sometimes "fall" into the motor/magnet instead 8)
>
> Alan
>









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Hi Marty,all,
               You'll need a Doppelte Kreuzungsweichen *(DKW)*

see: http://www.sh1.org/eisenbahn/snwn.htm

Don't know if anyone makes one is Z,...

Best,Kev

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:49 PM, holdthefort57 <mmbless@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> For the German railroads; the function would be like the HO version,
> indicating the double slip switch alignment.
>
> Marty
>
> --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brady wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marty,all,
> > For what railroad?
> >
> > Best,Kev
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM, holdthefort57 wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there a low lantern available that could be used to indicate the
> > > routing alignment of a double slip switch (like the Marklin 5128 HO
> double
> > > slip switches has)?
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service


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Hi all GP38 fans,

Our new stainless steel GP38-2 Handrail kits will arrive
at our facility for packaging and shipping by Friday, Feb 8, 2013.

Orders will be sent out on a first come (date and time ordered), first ship
basis.

If you would like to, you can now order this product and be
among the first to receive them via Priority Mail.

Go to:
http://www.micronart.com/1038gp.html

Thanks for your attention,
Reynard
http://www.micronart.com

One night I lost a Marklin electric locomotive pantograph spring to the carpet.
Closeup visual and magnet search proved futile.

I ended up going "all CSI" on it.

I have one of those Dyson vacuums with the plastic dust holder. After cleaning
out the holder, I vacuumed the suspected area. Then I dumped what little dust
came up onto a spread-out newspaper and started manually poking through the
debris. Voila!

Danny

Hi all,
          Nice CSI job Danny! :-)

Other: panty hose over any vacuum hose nozzle,..

Dr D

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Danny Goodman <dannyg@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> One night I lost a Marklin electric locomotive pantograph spring to the
> carpet. Closeup visual and magnet search proved futile.
>
> I ended up going "all CSI" on it.
>
> I have one of those Dyson vacuums with the plastic dust holder. After
> cleaning out the holder, I vacuumed the suspected area. Then I dumped what
> little dust came up onto a spread-out newspaper and started manually poking
> through the debris. Voila!
>
> Danny
>
>
>



--
Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service


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Danny,

Interesting solution to your lost spring dilemma.  The things we Z scalers
have to endure......oh the inhumanity.

Congratulations on finding your lost spring.  Just don't ever lose your
marbles in this hobby.   :o)

Loren


-------Original Message-------

From: Danny Goodman
Date: 1/28/2013 1:48:00 PM
To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Z_Scale] Finding parts that go SPROING

One night I lost a Marklin electric locomotive pantograph spring to the
carpet. Closeup visual and magnet search proved futile.

I ended up going "all CSI" on it.

I have one of those Dyson vacuums with the plastic dust holder. After
cleaning out the holder, I vacuumed the suspected area. Then I dumped what
little dust came up onto a spread-out newspaper and started manually poking
through the debris. Voila!

Danny



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Of course--the Big Magnet on a Stick from my mechanic's toolbox! Why didn't I
think of that before? Seven seconds of sweeping with that monster recovered the
screw.

Now, about that shell...suggestions, anyone?

--Jeff


--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Don Fedjur  wrote:
>
>
>  Mother always said; "work smart.......not hard"
>
> Take a piece of steel, ruler etc., flat bar..............throw some magnets
onto it................now hover over the area that you think the lost screw is,
you should pick it up quickly.
>
> If you need it brought back to life and a new screw, contact me.

> Don

Hi Jeff,all,
               What about the shell?

Kev

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Jeff Faust <jfaust42@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Of course--the Big Magnet on a Stick from my mechanic's toolbox! Why
> didn't I think of that before? Seven seconds of sweeping with that monster
> recovered the screw.
>
> Now, about that shell...suggestions, anyone?
>
> --Jeff
>
> --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Don Fedjur wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mother always said; "work smart.......not hard"
> >
> > Take a piece of steel, ruler etc., flat bar..............throw some
> magnets onto it................now hover over the area that you think the
> lost screw is, you should pick it up quickly.
> >
> > If you need it brought back to life and a new screw, contact me.
>
> > Don
>
>



--
Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service


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A reference to my original post, Kev. I couldn't get the shell off. I discovered
that the cylinder block is a separate cast-plastic part. Once I separated it a
little from the frame, the shell slipped easily off the tab.

Issues resolved!!! Thanks to everyone in the group who helped my through my
first Z scale crisis. (Let's hope it's the last.)

With the engine reassembled, I was able to test the Arduino-based throttle I'm
building for the layout. Further details when I make a little more progress.

--Jeff


--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brady  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff,all,
>               What about the shell?
>
> Kev
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Jeff Faust  wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Of course--the Big Magnet on a Stick from my mechanic's toolbox! Why
> > didn't I think of that before? Seven seconds of sweeping with that monster
> > recovered the screw.
> >
> > Now, about that shell...suggestions, anyone?
> >
> > --Jeff
> >
> > --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Don Fedjur wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Mother always said; "work smart.......not hard"
> > >
> > > Take a piece of steel, ruler etc., flat bar..............throw some
> > magnets onto it................now hover over the area that you think the
> > lost screw is, you should pick it up quickly.
> > >
> > > If you need it brought back to life and a new screw, contact me.
> >
> > > Don
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I got a train trivia calendar for 2013.  The Sat/Sun listing (without
specifying the exact date) reads:



In 1873, Eli H. Janney patented the automatic "knuckle coupler" (U.S. Patent
138,405).



Near as I can figure, no one died.



Jeff

ZoCal





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Well, technically speaking he patented the version of the knuckle coupler that
was accepted by the U.S. and the railroads. And you're right nobody died unless
you count the animal whose skin provided the vellum for the patent.

Mark

--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Thompson"  wrote:
>
> I got a train trivia calendar for 2013.  The Sat/Sun listing (without
> specifying the exact date) reads:
>
>
>
> In 1873, Eli H. Janney patented the automatic "knuckle coupler" (U.S. Patent
> 138,405).
>
>
>
> Near as I can figure, no one died.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
> ZoCal
>
>
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>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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