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Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Possible waste of indignation

I'm not naive to the fact that this is how it has been for a long time, but it
still does not make it right or fair, and in my eyes never will.
Sounds like you and I just agreed to disagree.
Fair enough.

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffire@...> wrote:

From: Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffire@...>
Subject: Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Possible waste of indignation
To: yumitsterryjones@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 9:19 PM
























I'm an admirer, not a therapist- I have no power to make his life any
better. I do think however that he is a sentient human being, and whilst the
public persona may not care, part of him may for a number of reasons, more
personal than public. A good word wouldn't hurt- I did mostly talk about his
work, my experience of it and how it has opened my eyes and changed my life,
because it did, but I also chose to send some love instead of criticism regards
the news. I don't think it is fair, regardless of your status in the public eye,
that you, your partner or your former wife should be physically followed around
the street or a park, or harassed at the home about your personal affairs. I'm
not naive to the fact that this is how it has been for a long time, but it still
does not make it right or fair, and in my eyes never will.



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From: bec <bec_87rb@yahoo. com>

To: yumitsterryjones@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 5:15:04 AM

Subject: Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Possible waste of indignation



Hm. I didn't say that a letter congratulating someone on a new baby is a bad
thing. Congratulating him is harmless, and comes from a kind impulse.

I was commenting on the implication that somehow, if fans approved of what the
press seems to be disapproving of, that this matters one way or the other to Mr.
Jones. That we had some power to make him feel better about his life. His
*work*, maybe, but not his life.



You said, "I still don't think it is fair how they have been treated."

You're right, I guess I can't agree. Portions of the press makes their money
following the lives and loves of the famous. Fair just doesn't enter into it,
and if I thought he was suffering, sitting around worrying what the press
thought of his choices, I might feel indignant on his behalf. I just haven't
seen that; as I said, he seems inner-directed. I don't think as grown man he
needs our approval of his love life.

I got some push back by using the phrase "bastard child." While that is
technically correct, it has the implication of moral evaluation. I apologize
for that.



--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffi r e@...> wrote:



From: Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffi r e@...>

Subject: Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Possible waste of indignation

To: yumitsterryjones@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 8:48 AM



Well, Im sorry, but I think with the real crap that goes on in the world,
bringing a new life into the world should be a joyous occasion. He may not care
what people think and I mentioned that, but I just felt it would be nice in
these times to have something positive to say. This is why I wrote to him, I
assume he may appreciate this.



Pity you don't feel the same, but that's your view, so....



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From: bec <bec_87rb@yahoo. com>



To: yumitsterryjones@ yahoogroups. com



Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 1:02:29 AM



Subject: Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Possible waste of indignation



Now, that's an interesting position to take.



Terry's in the public eye, he conducts his life in a way pretty much guaranteed
to tick off the middle class, and apparently, doesn't give a fig what they
think.



Why are we imaging he cares, for instance, how the press characterizes him? Do
you think it's unfair for them to note that a famous senior citizen divorces his
long term wife to have a bastard child with a woman 40 years his junior? I
mean, it's all true, right? He doesn't deny it, and he doesn't seem to have any
embarrassment about it, so .....



What I mean is, if he doesn't care what people think, should I?



--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffi r e@...> wrote:



From: Erin Dawborn <erin5ft1bundleoffi r e@...>



Subject: Re: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Wonderful News!!!!



To: yumitsterryjones@ yahoogroups. com



Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 8:04 AM



I felt compelled to send him a letter of support after the crap he and Anna have
faced. I know they are maybe used to it and have developed a tough skin, but I
still don't think it is fair how they have been treated. My love to both
xoxoxoxoxoxox



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From: nicole2001hall <nicole2001hall@ yahoo.co. uk>



To: yumitsterryjones@ yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:00:32 PM



Subject: [Yum It's Terry Jones] Wonderful News!!!!



Im so very happy for Terry And Anna. And hope their baby brings them many happy
times together as a family. All My Love. xxx



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Well, Im sorry, but I think with the real crap that goes on in the world, bringing a new life into the world should be a joyous occasion. He may not care what...
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Hm. I didn't say that a letter congratulating someone on a new baby is a bad thing. Congratulating him is harmless, and comes from a kind impulse. I was...
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I'm an admirer, not a therapist- I have no power to make his life any better. I do think however that he is a sentient human being, and whilst the public...
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I'm not naive to the fact that this is how it has been for a long time, but it still does not make it right or fair, and in my eyes never will. Sounds like you...
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Thats fine. Hey, I'm not saying I haven't had my doubts- if any of them were true, they would rip this right open!!!! Some interesting questions could be asked...
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