Critobolus says in the Oeconmomicus(Loeb translation): "Well, I think that even if the property is situated in different cities, everything a man possesses is...
kosta.simopoulos@...
Aug 8, 2000 7:20 pm
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... No different than today. If property is conventional in character (as it is in modern times), then property is subject to the conventions and limitations...
Kalev Pehme
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Aug 9, 2000 12:55 pm
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So then, by extension, the man who defines his possessions in conventional terms is likely to become like the one who uses it to buy the prostitute, and ...
Douglas Ollivant
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Aug 9, 2000 2:27 pm
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... Better yet, why not be like Jefferson and simply buy human souls for bodily pleasure? ... The purpose of the Lockean world, the purpose of Locke, is for...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Aug 9, 2000 3:17 pm
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... Thanks for the reference. I believe the current alliance between transnational property and politics is to be found in the neoGramscians and their ideas...
kosta.simopoulos@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:26 pm
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Has this group discussed the _Hiero_ already? I just signed on, and am interested in discussing that work together with _On Tyranny_. The part of _On...
Mango21@...
Dec 9, 2000 6:33 pm
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... No, sorry, very little discussion on the list for a long time. Simonides, as a wise man, seeks self-sufficency, and his pleasures is eating, a pleasure one...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 9, 2000 6:49 pm
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I would love to participate in a discussion the Hiero. I read Leo Strauss' "On Tyranny," which includes his Kojeve correspondence. George Steiner called it...
claude caspar
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Dec 9, 2000 7:27 pm
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Claude Caspar writes: I would love to participate in a discussion the Hiero. I read Leo Strauss' "On Tyranny," which includes his Kojeve correspondence....
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 9, 2000 7:52 pm
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Kalev, With you guiding us, I would take as you deem wise. ... From: Kalev Pehme Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 2:53 PM To: xenophon@egroups.com Subject:...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 9, 2000 8:05 pm
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If people are willing to read the Hiero, I am willing to participate. But I have done this kind of thing a lot on other lists and even tried here, and the ...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 9, 2000 8:47 pm
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I am indeed interested, but what you have said, Mr. Pehme, about not being able to keep up, makes me hesitate just a bit. Based upon an earlier response...
Mango Meier
Mango21@...
Dec 9, 2000 9:43 pm
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There are some interesting comments on this, in Strauss' correspondence with Voegelin, which is published. I can not remember all of it right now, but perhaps...
Andrew Lancaster
100761.200@...
Dec 10, 2000 4:26 pm
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... I believe that Xenophon is one the most farcical writers I have read, and he is funnier than any other writer I have read, even Plato. The Hiero is a vast ...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 10, 2000 6:05 pm
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... correspondence ... right now, ... I think I know the book you are referring to. Cordially, Mango Meier...
Mango Meier
Mango21@...
Dec 10, 2000 6:06 pm
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Are four voices sufficient to establish interest in reading the _Hiero_? The semester break is coming up very soon, and I would enjoy spending part of the...
Mango Meier
Mango21@...
Dec 10, 2000 6:20 pm
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Mango, Kalev knows everything, as you suspect. Unfortunately, not everyone agrees with him. ;-) I have learned [mostly as a lurker] enormously from his...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 10, 2000 7:07 pm
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... Four is fine. I will start with these comments about Hiero and Simonides and the title, and you and others may begin with the text. I recommend that we use...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 10, 2000 7:28 pm
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Dear List Members To get this little project going, I will do a few graphs of the beginning with a bit of analysis. You all ought to contribute your two cents...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 11, 2000 2:00 am
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claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 11, 2000 2:27 am
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Is it worth considering, especially in the context of this dialogue, Alcibiades & Critias, both intimates of Socrates and potential & real tyrants? These men...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 11, 2000 3:12 am
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Mr. Pehme, You say that "it is very bad to teach tyranny to people." What does it mean to teach tyranny? Is it to paint tyranny in a positive light, to make...
Mango Meier
Mango21@...
Dec 11, 2000 3:39 am
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And doesn't Socrates demonstrate that the good man knows how to be bad, the guard how to thieve? So, the democrate how to dictate? ... From: Mango Meier Sent:...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 11, 2000 3:59 am
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... This question is one that is inherent in the process of teaching tyranny. You find out that it is wrong to do so, unless, of course, one is Machiavelli who...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 11, 2000 4:22 am
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Claude Casper writes: And doesn't Socrates demonstrate that the good man knows how to be bad, the guard how to thieve? So, the democrate how to dictate? It is...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 11, 2000 4:24 am
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Claude Casper writes: Is it worth considering, especially in the context of this dialogue, Alcibiades & Critias, both intimates of Socrates and potential &...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 11, 2000 4:26 am
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Doesn't Socrates (I am trying to forget Plato and the Republic) want everyone to be Good? Doesn't this imply that everyone would have knowledge of Evil?<br...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 11, 2000 5:07 am
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Claude Caspar writes: Doesn't Socrates (I am trying to forget Plato and the Republic) want everyone to be Good? Doesn't this imply that everyone would have...
Kalev Pehme
pehme@...
Dec 11, 2000 12:46 pm
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Thank you- far afield perhaps, but these are the questions being raised. ... From: Kalev Pehme Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:47 AM To: xenophon@egroups.com...
claude caspar
claudecaspar@...
Dec 11, 2000 12:51 pm
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Just finished...It has been awhile since I read Xenophon, and will only now reread Strauss' commentary, so I am experiencing it with new eyes. I must say, I...
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