In reply to Robert Murray-Leach - I collect such E-mails so as to be able to republish as examples of the comment that railway people tend to make whenever...
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Eric Britton
fekbritton
Aug 14, 2002 7:53 pm
Dear Friends, It goes almost without saying that the tone of these exchanges is gentile and mutually respectful. No nastiness or innuendo, Class. Personally...
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Simon Norton
simonphillip...
Aug 15, 2002 5:20 am
1. It is a fallacy that "poor people don't go by rail". This fallacy is convincingly refuted in the recently published "The Case for Rail" (Steer Davies Gleave...
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Robert Murray-Leach
smogs@...
Aug 15, 2002 9:44 am
In reply to Paul Withrington, Hi Paul, Just to clarify my position, which was misunderstood. My problem is not with the original statistics (the national...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Aug 17, 2002 6:23 am
In response to Simon Norton see annotations below. I trust that that style does not cause offence since none is intended - I embolden my text only to...
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Simon Norton
simonphillip...
Aug 19, 2002 1:12 pm
In answer to Mr Withington's latest message. 1. I am not quite sure who would be supposed to pay for the maintenance of the railway formations after conversion...
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Eric Bruun
ericbruun@...
Aug 22, 2002 5:48 am
I heard the concession to Mr. Withington that motorways have more capacity than railroads. But is this really the case? Does it make sense to compare a highway...
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Eric Bruun
ericbruun@...
Aug 23, 2002 12:36 pm
Dear readers This discussion is complex and I don't have the time to develop a detailed response, but here are a few points. 1) I hear the same definition of...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Aug 23, 2002 12:41 pm
Robert My I-mail to do with casualty costs by road and rail has two parts, namely. 1 Passengers; rail versus bus on non-urban roads: The comparison excluded...
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Robert Murray-Leach
smogs@...
Aug 26, 2002 6:30 am
Paul, Thanks for your reply. Whether I agree with your arguments or not, I think having someone in the forum with a radically different view makes the ...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Aug 26, 2002 3:56 pm
This is the fifth facts sheet but appended to it are replies to comment by Simon Norton, Robert Murray Leach, and Eric Braun. Some of that repeats earlier...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Sep 2, 2002 8:16 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 6: Examples of Cost escalation for railway projects in the UK. Wp ref. Foebaab/email/06costs 1. At privatisation in 1994...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Sep 21, 2002 1:07 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 8: Track maintenance costs Wp ref. Foebaab/email/08maint 1 This note shows that track maintenance for rail transport costs...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Sep 28, 2002 5:06 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 7: Track costs We ref Forebear/email/07WCMLM1 This I-mail provides compares the costs of upgrading the West Coast Main Line...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Oct 8, 2002 9:13 am
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 9: Passenger Rolling Stock costs Wp ref. Foebaab/email/09rstock 1 This note shows that the annual cost of passenger rail...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Oct 22, 2002 5:25 am
Dear Mr Bruun In answer to your query: (1) I dare say you are aware that the Americans concluded long ago that there is no movement corridor in the World...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Oct 23, 2002 5:19 am
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 10: Rail safety costs, value for money? Wp ref. Foebaab/email/10sig This note provides data which suggests that for every 3...
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Eric Britton
fekbritton
Oct 31, 2002 1:21 pm
Sorry to reply so late! Perhaps my thoughts are still helpful: Privatisation in GB in the rail sector has led to massive security issues and the rail system is...
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Simon Norton
simonphillip...
Oct 31, 2002 1:21 pm
Some replies to Mr Withington's last but one message. (a) I am not quite sure why a coach is supposed to use as much fuel (8 mpg) as a 44 tonne lorry. (b) Mr...
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Simon Norton
simonphillip...
Oct 31, 2002 1:21 pm
In view of the concentration on disability in the latest issue of World Transport Policy & Practice, I thought I would make some comments that may be rather...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Oct 31, 2002 1:22 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 7: Track costs Wp ref Foebaab/email/07WCMLM1 This E-mail compares the costs of upgrading the West Coast Main Line with the...
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Eric Bruun
ericbruun@...
Oct 31, 2002 1:22 pm
Mr.Withington 1) Check the capacity versus speed curves in, for example, Vuchic, 1981, "Urban Public Transportation: Systems and Technology". Buses can not...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Oct 31, 2002 1:22 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 11: Journey Length distributions/Speed and fares Wp ref. Foebaab/email/11fare Table 3.3 of the Transport Statistics Bulletin...
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p.withrington
p.withrington@...
Nov 3, 2002 6:40 pm
I reply to Simon and Eric by annotating the texts: Simon's ... My data on rail freight fuel consumption comes from NETCET citing the National Atmospheric...
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Eric Bruun
ericbruun@...
Nov 5, 2002 6:34 am
Mr. Withington, A few quick comments: 1) Trains are not fragile. The UK runs an exceptionally old fleet in poor condition. 2) Your citation of approximately...
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Paul Withrington
p.withrington@...
Dec 5, 2002 1:35 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 12: Costs of conversion and rates of return Wp ref. Foebaab/email/rret This note shows that (a) the first year rates of return...
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Simon Norton
simonphillip...
Dec 23, 2002 1:40 pm
A few further points which need to be taken into account. 1. Many inter-city and commuter rail routes are not in fact subsidised at all. 2. There is no...
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Paul Withrington
p.withrington@...
Dec 23, 2002 1:40 pm
Eric - I hope you do not mind rejoinder by way of more annotation to your comment. (Heaven knows why this is coming out blue - but I have been upgraded) 1)...
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Paul Withrington
p.withrington@...
Dec 30, 2002 9:49 pm
Rob Your note illustrated, quite rightly, that there may be more deaths per passenger kilometre on short journeys than on long ones. That is because short...
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Paul Withrington
p.withrington@...
Dec 30, 2002 9:49 pm
Road versus rail: Facts sheet No 12: Costs of conversion and rates of return Wp ref. Foebaab/email/rret This note shows that (a) the first year rates of return...
