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Re: [WWWEDU] Re: Question about student blogging

My concern, focusing on cyberbullying, is that due to lack of effective
professional and curriculum development, some teachers may think that
letting students go to commercial blogging sites and post material is
perfectly okay. Art was absolutely right -- this raises significant
liability concerns for schools (please note the JD after my name, something
I rarely point out but in this case am).

An online colleague of mine, who had a had the horrible experience of having
to deal with the aftermath of a middle school student who committed suicide
in the face of cyberbullying (other students were encouraging him to do it)
has been trying to deal with the blogging issue at her school. She asked the
IT department to close down school access to MySpace, Xanga, and
LiveJournal, and the like. There was a major cry of dissent from teachers.

She is now trying to sort out why what the IT department did is upsetting
the teachers. Were they just letting kids write in their blogs on these
sites and thinking it was "educational?" Or did the IT folks cut off access
to some valuable learning activities? She can't tell. And the fact that the
IT department is not at all open about how it is managing Internet use (they
refuse to tell her what filtering program they are using) is part of the
problem.

I trust folks like Mark and Art to know how to do student blogging right.
But I have lots of concerns that there may be many teachers who are letting
students write in their blogs on commercial web sites as part of Internet
"recess" -- which is how students are using the Internet in schools where
there has been insufficient professional and curriculum development.

Nancy


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Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D.
Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use
http://cyberbully.org
http://csriu.org
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... about ... I fail to see how blogging - the way I see elementary teachers using it right now - differs in any way from having student writing published on...
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Nov 2, 2005
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My concern, focusing on cyberbullying, is that due to lack of effective professional and curriculum development, some teachers may think that letting students...
Nancy Willard
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Nov 2, 2005
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Hi Nancy and others, I guess I am just feeling cantankerous today, but I am VERY distressed by Nancy's concern about the liability issues concerning blogging. ...
dougj
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Nov 2, 2005
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Hi Doug, In a perfect world, everyone would see the sanity of what you're saying. The truth, however, is that school districts are VERY concerned with...
Cindy Penchina
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Nov 2, 2005
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I've been involved in technology in the schools for many years and I'm just now seeing schools relax a bit about publishing on the web, but I'm not sure that...
Cindy Penchina
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Nov 3, 2005
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I've been out of the classroom for so long, (I've been divorced from the education institution for 10 years), that I'm losing patience with our fear of...
David Warlick
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Nov 3, 2005
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Guess I may as well go all the way with this grumpy thing: From: http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2005/9/28/rules-for-pod- ...
dougj
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Doug... LOVE THAT! I'm going to print that up, frame it and put it on the wall in front of my desk. Cindy ... From: wwwedu@yahoogroups.com...
Cindy Penchina
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Nov 3, 2005
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And we might as well ban e-mail and listservs, too. It's like those disclaimers that were used after someone burned themselves on hot coffee. However, all...
John Thompson
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Nov 3, 2005
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Hi All - I would like to cite the experience of a University to show how banning things because someone might get harassed or abused is the absolutely wrong...
Ja Young
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Nov 4, 2005
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Here's an example of the same mentality of "it's not fair" from my past experience teaching web site design to kids. I was teaching in a public school I worked...
Cindy Penchina
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... Aw, that's no fun. We need to take this pencil banning stuff seriously. It's dangerous! We need serious policy in place to deal with it. However, I...
Art Wolinsky
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... So, OK, Mr. Grumpy, don't be quiet now. Now is the time for discussion. A couple of points: I do not think there is "potential misuse," I think there is a...
Nancy Willard
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wwwedu@yahoogroups.com on Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 9:44 AM -0700 ... I agree with Nancy on a number of fronts. When students are in school, the school has...
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wwwedu@yahoogroups.com on Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 9:44 AM -0700 ... I agree with Nancy on a number of fronts. When students are in school, the school has...
Rick Spitzer
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OK, so so far we have the following major points: Focus on professional and curriculum development so teachers are better able to engage students in exciting...
Nancy Willard
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wwwedu@yahoogroups.com on Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 2:51 PM -0700 ... Good summary and the question should be.............. What should the policy be with...
Rick Spitzer
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Good points, but I would suggest to you that some students seem to think that different rules apply to online communications. So there is a need to effectively...
Nancy Willard
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Nov 3, 2005
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Thank you all who have contributed interesting insights to this discussion under the two titles "Question about student blogging" and "Proposal for banning...
Claude Almansi
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Nov 4, 2005
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Oops, forgot, a few more things: Educating students about the folly and potential downsides of making online threats. Educating students about the importance...
Nancy Willard
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Doug asked me to preview his blog post and I realized that the thread ended too soon and there is at least one other item that should be on this list ‹ and...
Nancy Willard
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... One of the reasons that students often misuse the Internet is that teachers have not been professionally developed in ways to guide students on educational...
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We have just installed Moodle on school computers, and so far it's only accessible on the school's intranet. I am just learning to use this tool, but I am...
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Carla, Moodle is an excellent tool for the classroom management of materials that make them available outside of the classroom where parents and others can...
Todd S. Thuma
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IIRC, Moodle is a CMS tool which David Warlick was referring to in another post. I have experimented with it a tiny bit but don't know enough about what I am...
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I am on my way back from Greece in a Lufthansa plane....trying to use the overabundant time. I just thought I would throw in the example of the blog that I...
Janice Friesen
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... I doubt that they view them all as Lizzy Bordens, but it probably is that they are afraid of putting axes in the hands of all the students if there is one...
Art Wolinsky
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